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Post by nicolascajun on Mar 30, 2014 9:46:43 GMT -6
Darth has been beaten up a little too much. Currently his team is out performing the other GMOY contenders and GI and Soundwave will be the first to say it. What ends up happening with the award is a toss up. But clearly though 30 days, he has done the best job in all of the criteria whether you like it or not. Tanking only potentially hurts the team that is doing it. Putting your eggs in the draft basket is a big risk. Especially not knowing what the draft classes could look like. Doug is also getting beat up, but he has the most cap space going into the best free agency year. If people haven't considered that as a part of his thought process yet, then maybe he is smarter than we think. Don't know what this has to do with me? All I said is that coaching should be appreciated more. That would pretty much eliminate me from anything. Let's be honest, Darth's had that GMOY award wrapped up since week 2. Wether it includes coaching or not. He has done as good as good a job coaching this year as any getting a team full of new guys and rookies to play very well together. Something I'm just figuring out. Just trying to give the guys that are good game planners here and haven't made the big moves some love too, Award or no award. Not only for guys like Pauly, but Balls, RPF, Xist, Eazy, Bow, not NOLa, and what's his name that runs the Sonics and roots against me every chance he gets cause he owns my pick. Doesn't need to be another award for that. When did this thread become all about Darth anyway? Bwahaha! It's nothing against you Soundwave, but there is one guy I really want in that draft. I don't honestly believe you will fall past the fourth spot come playoff time. |
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 30, 2014 9:46:49 GMT -6
Funny. I remember people not caring when I was doing the same shit. If anything Doug is pulling a Nic. Maybe I'm not popular enough to get scolded by fellow leaguers (except for Balls- that guy is an asshole). You laugh, but I think this has a lot to do with why Doug is getting abused on this year. He is one of the vocal ones about people's trades, good and bad. Hell, we have whole segments dedicated to this on the podcast. I think some people are just getting a little payback. Doug's reactions have also been priceless so that's certainly not helping people stop it either. But yes, you did something similar and caught no flack for it. It should show us all that again tanking is not that bad. Lol only a few people have been busting my balls on my trades. Ps - Scott Brooks thinks he's worth more than 3 points, but I told him stfu and deal with it. |
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 30, 2014 9:50:07 GMT -6
Darth has been beaten up a little too much. Currently his team is out performing the other GMOY contenders and GI and Soundwave will be the first to say it. What ends up happening with the award is a toss up. But clearly though 30 days, he has done the best job in all of the criteria whether you like it or not. Tanking only potentially hurts the team that is doing it. Putting your eggs in the draft basket is a big risk. Especially not knowing what the draft classes could look like. Doug is also getting beat up, but he has the most cap space going into the best free agency year. If people haven't considered that as a part of his thought process yet, then maybe he is smarter than we think.  |
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Post by Inner_GI on Mar 30, 2014 10:00:52 GMT -6
Either we have a "set in stone" criteria for winning GMOY like you must meet xyz to be "worthy," OR we just all learn to accept differing opinions, and stop just expecting to win GMOY because you signed a big name in FA or rebuilt through the draft.
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 30, 2014 10:32:42 GMT -6
So.....
My team went 4-3. Not a good sim defensively for my team overall so kind of upset.
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Post by Inner_GI on Mar 30, 2014 10:43:10 GMT -6
So..... My team went 4-3. Not a good sim defensively for my team overall so kind of upset. I went 3-3! lol |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 10:45:52 GMT -6
I'm still skeptical my team is good.
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Post by 78 on Mar 30, 2014 13:26:35 GMT -6
I'm gonna post an article shortly on current favorites for end of season awards. Probably this evening.
BTW, I started the whole GMOY argument when I joked that the drafting of Dino Radja put me over the hump for GMOY. I didn't think it would go this far.
I like my team, but don't love it yet. Need to rebound better and stop turning the ball over.
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Post by Soundwave on Mar 30, 2014 13:51:25 GMT -6
BTW, I started the whole GMOY argument when I joked that the drafting of Dino Radja put me over the hump for GMOY. I didn't think it would go this far.  |
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Post by WigNosy on Mar 31, 2014 10:53:48 GMT -6
Gonna throw in a couple of thoughts on GMOY:
1. I can't judge teams on the moves they don't make, because I'm not privy to all the trade conversations everyone has. Since I can't judge teams on moves they don't make, it's not a good criterion.
2. I think there are four parts to being a good GM: drafting well, trading well, free agency acquisitions, and fitting players together.
3. To me, "drafting well" means (a) not screwing up a high pick or (b) doing well with a lower pick. If you had one of the top 2 picks in this year's draft, no points for drafting Webber/Penny. You'd be a fool not to. (You could have gotten dinged, however, had you picked poorly). If you get a starter with the #20 pick in the draft, you get points, particularly if teams picking ahead of you didn't.
4. To me, "trading well" doesn't always mean winning right now; it can mean acquiring lower-cost players with potential or clearing cap space or any number of things - basically, "can I look at a trade and see exactly why you made it" and at the same time wonder "why did the other guy make the trade?"
5. Free agency acquisitions - part of this is "how did you use the cap space you had" and part of it is "did you give yourself sufficient cap space?"
6. Fitting players together - did you take a guy who had been malingering and turn him into a productive player? If so, great job, you get points for that.
To me, wins and losses are somewhat of a barometer for GMOY, but I don't really use them as my sole criterion. This isn't a "most improved" award; rather, it's "whose moves (again, I can't judge lack of moves) have most improved the short-term or long-term... or better yet, both... prospects of their team?"
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Post by Conroy on Mar 31, 2014 11:49:28 GMT -6
I seriously hate the award* now I truly do. But I'm not going to just come on here and complain about it, I'll offer at least an idea of a solution. It's probably terrible, but it's rooted in what people think what me and Tray did as far as voting goes was wrong.
-You must be nominated for the award and you can nominate yourself if you so choose.
-Nominations open after the All-Star game
-If you are nominated you can accept or decline nomination
-Once you accept a nomination, you are not able to vote on the award period.
You can bash me and Tray for voting the way we did, but we obviously both believed we deserved to win the award. I would have voted Tray #2 if I could have voted myself #1, but that was impossible. So why would I vote Tray ahead of me when I think I deserved the award and why would Tray do the same?
I think the campaigning threads stay up, because honestly nobody is going to go through all the transactions or look at archived indexes to see the difference in teams etc...Allow one post per accepted nomination for them to state their case. Start voting with last regular season sim and finish it before first round of playoffs end.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 11:52:06 GMT -6
I seriously hate the award* now I truly do. But I'm not going to just come on here and complain about it, I'll offer at least an idea of a solution. It's probably terrible, but it's rooted in what people think what me and Tray did as far as voting goes was wrong. -You must be nominated for the award and you can nominate yourself if you so choose. -Nominations open after the All-Star game -If you are nominated you can accept or decline nomination -Once you accept a nomination, you are not able to vote on the award period. You can bash me and Tray for voting the way we did, but we obviously both believed we deserved to win the award. I would have voted Tray #2 if I could have voted myself #1, but that was impossible. So why would I vote Tray ahead of me when I think I deserved the award and why would Tray do the same? I think the campaigning threads stay up, because honestly nobody is going to go through all the transactions or look at archived indexes to see the difference in teams etc...Allow one post per accepted nomination for them to state their case. Start voting with last regular season sim and finish it before first round of playoffs end. Integrity |
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Post by logpmess on Mar 31, 2014 11:56:00 GMT -6
I seriously hate the award* now I truly do. But I'm not going to just come on here and complain about it, I'll offer at least an idea of a solution. It's probably terrible, but it's rooted in what people think what me and Tray did as far as voting goes was wrong. -You must be nominated for the award and you can nominate yourself if you so choose. -Nominations open after the All-Star game -If you are nominated you can accept or decline nomination -Once you accept a nomination, you are not able to vote on the award period. You can bash me and Tray for voting the way we did, but we obviously both believed we deserved to win the award. I would have voted Tray #2 if I could have voted myself #1, but that was impossible. So why would I vote Tray ahead of me when I think I deserved the award and why would Tray do the same? I think the campaigning threads stay up, because honestly nobody is going to go through all the transactions or look at archived indexes to see the difference in teams etc...Allow one post per accepted nomination for them to state their case. Start voting with last regular season sim and finish it before first round of playoffs end. Integrity I had to laugh when I read "Integerity" followed by the quote in your autograph. "no mercy" |
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Mar 31, 2014 11:58:35 GMT -6
I had to laugh when I read "Integerity" followed by the quote in your autograph. "no mercy" Francis Underwood is a saint!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 12:27:19 GMT -6
I had to laugh when I read "Integerity" followed by the quote in your autograph. "no mercy" I guess it makes me a hypocrit that i vote right when no one's looking and i quoted a tv show. |
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Post by logpmess on Mar 31, 2014 12:42:56 GMT -6
I had to laugh when I read "Integerity" followed by the quote in your autograph. "no mercy" I guess it makes me a hypocrit that i vote right when no one's looking and i quoted a tv show. No I feel the same as you. Just gave me a laugh. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 13:14:11 GMT -6
I guess it makes me a hypocrit that i vote right when no one's looking and i quoted a tv show. No I feel the same as you. Just gave me a laugh. No mercy but do it right ! Come on LOL |
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