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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 10:29:11 GMT -6
Lol Malone drives me nuts with his 3pt shooting. I have it at the lowest game setting and there's no reason for him to shoot it but he still averaged a 3PA a game which pissed me off. Hakeem is looking scary with 3 attributes/skills almost at 100. Jesus What was that best player in the league talk, again? You bring MJ to 7 games and now we can't get you to shut up damn!!! lol I can't wait man the Pacific is tough as hell and I'm excited.
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 10:29:30 GMT -6
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Post by JNR on Nov 19, 2013 10:31:37 GMT -6
Larry Nance took a beating, but at least Spud Webb looks better.
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Post by rpf on Nov 19, 2013 10:31:49 GMT -6
cpu assisted from now on for me
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 10:41:18 GMT -6
What was that best player in the league talk, again? You bring MJ to 7 games and now we can't get you to shut up damn!!! lol I can't wait man the Pacific is tough as hell and I'm excited. Hakeem won 37 games by himself. I don't expect to win 40 this year again because I didn't make any additions, but Hakeem should be a beast yet again.
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 10:44:17 GMT -6
You bring MJ to 7 games and now we can't get you to shut up damn!!! lol I can't wait man the Pacific is tough as hell and I'm excited. Hakeem won 37 games by himself. I don't expect to win 40 this year again because I didn't make any additions, but Hakeem should be a beast yet again. Really? I think 40-45 is well within your teams reach. If you talk to Bow he'll tell you Malone carried me to all my wins lol
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 10:45:55 GMT -6
Hakeem won 37 games by himself. I don't expect to win 40 this year again because I didn't make any additions, but Hakeem should be a beast yet again. Really? I think 40-45 is well within your teams reach. If you talk to Bow he'll tell you Malone carried me to all my wins lol Well now that I have more time for this, maybe so. I really need a secondary scorer. Someone who can get be 18-20 a game. I'm hoping Persons can be that.
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 10:49:04 GMT -6
Hakeem won 37 games by himself. I don't expect to win 40 this year again because I didn't make any additions, but Hakeem should be a beast yet again. Really? I think 40-45 is well within your teams reach. If you talk to Bow he'll tell you Malone carried me to all my wins lol Well now that I have more time for this, maybe so. I really need a secondary scorer. Someone who can get be 18-20 a game. I'm hoping Persons can be that.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 11:02:51 GMT -6
I wont pay to train if this will have a negative impact on my player. Point are scarce in this league.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 11:04:04 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. You and everyone who assists you are doing a great job running this league.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 11:06:50 GMT -6
I wont pay to train if this will have a negative impact on my player. Point are scarce in this league. A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well.
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Post by IamQuailman on Nov 19, 2013 11:10:23 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. You and everyone who assists you are doing a great job running this league. +1 to this
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Post by IamQuailman on Nov 19, 2013 11:13:02 GMT -6
My approach to TC:
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 11:16:09 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. Darth I never one insinuated that you did anything malicious. I know putting all of these in took a ton of time and it was a lot to do at once. Can you be 100% sure a mistake wasn't made? Do you have the ability to go back and review it? Most of my players did about what I expected, good or bad. But even you have to admit that this one seems weird. Can anyone here recall any instance in which the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR regressed this much?
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 11:19:08 GMT -6
Look, I had a bunch of players that improved (Rick Fox, WOW) and a few that declined a bit. Just one that seemed abby-normal.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 11:19:16 GMT -6
I wont pay to train if this will have a negative impact on my player. Point are scarce in this league. A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. I understand but If I pay for a player to be trained I am going to want to see improvements because I paid points for that particular player. There is a possibility that I could pay for a player training and he could decline. I don't want to take that chance at least not right now. I am sure this feeling will go away in time.
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 11:23:10 GMT -6
I wont pay to train if this will have a negative impact on my player. Point are scarce in this league. A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. Jesus your team went up 270? My team had a net overall of +25
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Post by DarthVegito on Nov 19, 2013 11:24:55 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. Darth I never one insinuated that you did anything malicious. I know putting all of these in took a ton of time and it was a lot to do at once. Can you be 100% sure a mistake wasn't made? Do you have the ability to go back and review it? Most of my players did about what I expected, good or bad. But even you have to admit that this one seems weird. Can anyone here recall any instance in which the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR regressed this much? Not saying you did. But I take it seriously and I can be 100% sure that I didn't make a mistake. And it's because of the way I do it. I'm very ocd and meticulous. I entered them all then go back on each one of them to ensure they are correct. This is important and I treat it as such. I wish I had a better answer for you. Your right it doesn't make sense, but neither does all the other young high potential guys getting worse on every one else's teams. Maybe as the years go by we'll understand it more or maybe we won't. But unfortunately it's what we have.
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Post by WigNosy on Nov 19, 2013 11:26:49 GMT -6
Wig, Have you ever seen anything like this before? I haven't been through huge amounts of training camps yet, so I will not claim to have a great handle on them, but here are a few things I have observed: 1. The first training camp after a league is created seems to have a much higher rate of change than subsequent training camps. I have no idea why this is the case, just an observation. I suspect it's because of item #2 below. 2. There is a "hidden" rating called "3 point usage" that affects how often a player takes threes ("3 point shooting" affects how well a player makes the threes he takes). Since "inside scoring" affects a player's ability to get shots, often the first training camp seems to steal "inside scoring" points and re-assign them to "3 point usage" for players who have a high 3ps score but didn't shoot a lot of threes. (Note: I actually put in a suggestion to the developer to make this rating public as soon as I noticed it - months ago). If you have a player who had a high 3ps score that lost "inside scoring" I'm guessing that's where it went... your guy will probably score about the same this year as he did last year but will shoot more 3s. For a concrete example of this in the IJBL, compare Duncan Gouin in 2062 (the first year we imported into FBB3) with Duncan Gouin in 2063. He has a 50+ 3-point shooting score in 2062 but barely takes them - less than one per game. In 2064, his inside shooting score drops a bit and his 3-point shooting score stays about the same... but his three-point attempts jump from 0.8 to 4.9 per game (that's the hidden "3 point usage" rating going way up). At a guess, this is what is going on with Coleman. This seems to happen to a player during their first TC but doesn't really come into play after that as far as I can tell. 3. The "potential" ratings are basically a cap on "how good can a guy get" so if you put a bunch of training in an area where a guy is already at his "peak" the training is basically wasted. Other than that, I wish I had more experience to offer but the truth is, I've only run about 8 training camps (2 in the IJBL, 3 in the BIBA, and a couple of "Trial runs" when learning how to convert from JSB to FBB) so it's one of the aspects of the game I *don't* know very well yet.
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Post by DarthVegito on Nov 19, 2013 11:27:07 GMT -6
A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. I understand but If I pay for a player to be trained I am going to want to see improvements because I paid points for that particular player. There is a possibility that I could pay for a player training and he could decline. I don't want to take that chance at least not right now. I am sure this feeling will go away in time. It is impossible for whatever player that gets the paid training to decline. It's a guaranteed 5+ points into whatever attribute Eazy. It's not a system thing, I do it by hand. The paid trainings are not random.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 11:29:11 GMT -6
You and everyone who assists you are doing a great job running this league. +1 to this Quail, did you just compliment yourself?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 11:32:03 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. Darth I never one insinuated that you did anything malicious. I know putting all of these in took a ton of time and it was a lot to do at once. Can you be 100% sure a mistake wasn't made? Do you have the ability to go back and review it? Most of my players did about what I expected, good or bad. But even you have to admit that this one seems weird. Can anyone here recall any instance in which the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR regressed this much? Let's play devil's advocate and say it was accidentally put in wrong, then what? I don't understand what you're trying to accmomplish.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 11:34:06 GMT -6
A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. I understand but If I pay for a player to be trained I am going to want to see improvements because I paid points for that particular player. There is a possibility that I could pay for a player training and he could decline. I don't want to take that chance at least not right now. I am sure this feeling will go away in time. Nope, whatever you train goes up 5 points. No chance at going down.
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 11:34:42 GMT -6
Thank for that post Wig!
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Post by Conroy on Nov 19, 2013 11:45:56 GMT -6
I wont pay to train if this will have a negative impact on my player. Point are scarce in this league. A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. whoa you went up a total of 270?!? I was an overall -112
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