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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 9:27:51 GMT -6
I'm giving it serious contemplation that I might just let CPU do my TC for me.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 9:30:35 GMT -6
I have a TC question... Why none of Drazen's Shooting attributes improved after I trained them with a number 10. His FT, 3Pt shooting and Jumpshot all remained the same. Something should have improve even if it was by 1 or 2 points. I feel like I wasted TC 10 points. Wait it stayed the same? I put 10 points into inside for Roberts and he LOST 13 points in inside scoring. You got lucky! WTF...IS THERE A GLITCH IN THE TRAINING CAMP SYSTEM. -13 wow and he's young. It doesn't make sense.
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Post by LoCo89 on Nov 19, 2013 9:32:21 GMT -6
I'm giving it serious contemplation that I might just let CPU do my TC for me. Is there any trend difference between those that did their own and the cpu training camps? Or were yours just that bad?
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 9:33:47 GMT -6
who is available for trade? Danny Ainge
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 9:34:24 GMT -6
I'm giving it serious contemplation that I might just let CPU do my TC for me. Is there any trend difference between those that did their own and the cpu training camps? Or were yours just that bad? Im going to dive into it more later but so far those that manually put theirs in got some mixed results with some good and one REALLY BAD and looking through some of the teams that didn't even submit and they had some significant imrpovements or stayed about the same nothing drastic.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 9:34:49 GMT -6
I have a TC question... Why none of Drazen's Shooting attributes improved after I trained them with a number 10. His FT, 3Pt shooting and Jumpshot all remained the same. Something should have improve even if it was by 1 or 2 points. I feel like I wasted TC 10 points. Trust me, be thankful. I had a player with Blue future potential who went down 12 points in 3pt after training shooting 10. Chambers went from double green to double yellow but he's in his 30's I expected him to decline at some point. Derrick Coleman wow. RPF center went from a 94 to 74 in Offensive rebounding.
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Post by rpf on Nov 19, 2013 9:38:25 GMT -6
i too had a blue potential that went to green. how the fuck did Cliff Robinson go from 81 3pt rating to a 69 when i spent points training that bitch there? i guess i should have let the computer do it or spent it on some good heroin.
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 9:45:07 GMT -6
Is there any trend difference between those that did their own and the cpu training camps? Or were yours just that bad? Im going to dive into it more later but so far those that manually put theirs in got some mixed results with some good and one REALLY BAD and looking through some of the teams that didn't even submit and they had some significant imrpovements or stayed about the same nothing drastic. I did mine manually and my only real bad one was a old player, and is was only -25. He went down 1-4 in each category, so nothing crazy. Still a solid player.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 9:48:34 GMT -6
NETS TRAINING CAMP Olden Polynice Cliff Robinson Mark Aguirre
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Post by rpf on Nov 19, 2013 9:52:47 GMT -6
BREAKING NEWS New Jersey Nets fired head trainer
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 9:53:58 GMT -6
Im going to dive into it more later but so far those that manually put theirs in got some mixed results with some good and one REALLY BAD and looking through some of the teams that didn't even submit and they had some significant imrpovements or stayed about the same nothing drastic. I did mine manually and my only real bad one was a old player, and is was only -25. He went down 1-4 in each category, so nothing crazy. Still a solid player. Damn man you're lucky. Some of our players got completely taken out like Simmons. He dropped at least -5 in every major category I use him for. Want to know what he improved in? +1 3 point shot which he took a whopping 40 attempts last season. Yup, but Inside shot? -9 Rebounding? -16 overall for offense and defense rebound Perimeter D steals and blocks, that one thing he was decent at with good potential? HA YEAH RIGHT NOLa.!!! -6, -7, -5 go fuck yourself Simmons.
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 9:55:18 GMT -6
BREAKING NEWS New Jersey Nets fired head trainer NETS STRENGTH TRAINING VIDEO
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 9:58:30 GMT -6
I did mine manually and my only real bad one was a old player, and is was only -25. He went down 1-4 in each category, so nothing crazy. Still a solid player. Damn man you're lucky. Some of our players got completely taken out like Simmons. He dropped at least -5 in every major category I use him for. Want to know what he improved in? +1 3 point shot which he took a whopping 40 attempts last season. Yup, but Inside shot? -9 Rebounding? -16 overall for offense and defense rebound Perimeter D steals and blocks, that one thing he was decent at with good potential? HA YEAH RIGHT NOLa.!!! -6, -7, -5 go fuck yourself Simmons. Yea, Ainge's biggest lost was -6 in strength, but eh, he's old. And -5 in 3pt shot, but he's still got a 72 rating there. It looks bad, but he should have the same production as last season.
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 10:00:06 GMT -6
Damn man you're lucky. Some of our players got completely taken out like Simmons. He dropped at least -5 in every major category I use him for. Want to know what he improved in? +1 3 point shot which he took a whopping 40 attempts last season. Yup, but Inside shot? -9 Rebounding? -16 overall for offense and defense rebound Perimeter D steals and blocks, that one thing he was decent at with good potential? HA YEAH RIGHT NOLa.!!! -6, -7, -5 go fuck yourself Simmons. Yea, Ainge's biggest lost was -6 in strength, but eh, he's old. And -5 in 3pt shot, but he's still got a 72 rating there. It looks bad, but he should have the same production as last season. Did he ever pick up his game since early last season? I know you had some problems with him shooting the 3 or was it that he wouldnt shoot it?
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Post by IamQuailman on Nov 19, 2013 10:04:34 GMT -6
Let's take a small step back and remember that we had guys in the last league that dropped off a bit during TC. We never knew how much specifically since we had A+ A A- B+ B B- etc... AND some of those ratings lumped together (outside = Jump shot and 3pt, rebound = o reb and d reb, def = psd, prd, stl,blk) hell, we didn't even know conditioning... so as far as we know, we had guys who fell off a lot and we just didn't realize it.
We all knew coming into this that TC is a horrible crap shoot (emphasis on crap), but I think we all had higher expectations in that we expected that having a say in what was trained would yield positive results. But at the end of the day, we all now know going forward that TC is JUST as shitty in the new game as it was in the last one.
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 10:15:13 GMT -6
Yea, Ainge's biggest lost was -6 in strength, but eh, he's old. And -5 in 3pt shot, but he's still got a 72 rating there. It looks bad, but he should have the same production as last season. Did he ever pick up his game since early last season? I know you had some problems with him shooting the 3 or was it that he wouldnt shoot it? Well I never let him after the first month or so. he took like 2-3 a game after his horrendous start and shot around 33% for the year. It wasn't pretty, but I also didn't gameplan for him. On the flip side, Skiles is now a 80 rating in 3pt shot. This year, I hope to play more inside out with Hakeem, Gilliam, Persons and Ainge and Skiles on the outside. Also, I think Persons could hit a few more threes this year as well. Now if I could stop Hakeem from taking 70 this year, that would be great. lol I was middle of the pack in 3PA, 3PM, and 3P%.
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 10:17:21 GMT -6
Trust me, be thankful. I had a player with Blue future potential who went down 12 points in 3pt after training shooting 10. SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MY ADVICE AND YOU ONLY WOULD HAVE LOST 8 That wasn't Coleman. I was talking about another player on my team that regressed a total of -30 points. YES. SOMEONE BESIDES COLEMAN WHO IS ALSO IN THEIR PRIME.
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Post by DarthVegito on Nov 19, 2013 10:18:13 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check.
As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is.
Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 10:18:26 GMT -6
SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MY ADVICE AND YOU ONLY WOULD HAVE LOST 8 That wasn't Coleman. I was talking about another player on my team that regressed a total of -30 points. YES. SOMEONE BESIDES COLEMAN WHO IS ALSO IN THEIR PRIME. See what happens when your rise up against the power? Seriously though, shitty.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 10:19:16 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. DC thread already posted !
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 10:19:41 GMT -6
Did he ever pick up his game since early last season? I know you had some problems with him shooting the 3 or was it that he wouldnt shoot it? Well I never let him after the first month or so. he took like 2-3 a game after his horrendous start and shot around 33% for the year. It wasn't pretty, but I also didn't gameplan for him. On the flip side, Skiles is now a 80 rating in 3pt shot. This year, I hope to play more inside out with Hakeem, Gilliam, Persons and Ainge and Skiles on the outside. Also, I think Persons could hit a few more threes this year as well. Now if I could stop Hakeem from taking 70 this year, that would be great. lol I was middle of the pack in 3PA, 3PM, and 3P%. Lol Malone drives me nuts with his 3pt shooting. I have it at the lowest game setting and there's no reason for him to shoot it but he still averaged a 3PA a game which pissed me off. Hakeem is looking scary with 3 attributes/skills almost at 100. Jesus
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 10:22:27 GMT -6
Just to address the slight insinuations, every single player was entered in accurately and exactly as each of you indicated on your TC. This was by far the longest thing I've done. Took me 2 and a half hours to enter everything and then go back and do my double check. As far as the results go...can't help anyone there. My first TC as it is most of yours. My entire team got worse too I think with the exception of Stockton. Never in a million years did I think TC would be so drastic. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Wignosy can shed a little light on the subject but it is what it is. Depth charts for first preseason SIM are due tomorrow by 5pm. I will post the DC thread shortly. Second and last preseason SIM will be Friday. The regular season will start Monday. You may "pay" for a training with your points until the regular season starts. Just so you (Darth) know I'm 100% certain you entered it right and it never crossed my mind. I knew this was a system related thing and like others said it was most of us first time on this new system with training camp. I just hate how it completely takes out some players across the league which is a shitty way to begin the season but understand there's not much we can do on our end. CPU will be doing the rest for me and I'm okay with that. Had some good results.
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 10:23:43 GMT -6
That wasn't Coleman. I was talking about another player on my team that regressed a total of -30 points. YES. SOMEONE BESIDES COLEMAN WHO IS ALSO IN THEIR PRIME. See what happens when your rise up against the power? Seriously though, shitty.
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 10:25:20 GMT -6
Well I never let him after the first month or so. he took like 2-3 a game after his horrendous start and shot around 33% for the year. It wasn't pretty, but I also didn't gameplan for him. On the flip side, Skiles is now a 80 rating in 3pt shot. This year, I hope to play more inside out with Hakeem, Gilliam, Persons and Ainge and Skiles on the outside. Also, I think Persons could hit a few more threes this year as well. Now if I could stop Hakeem from taking 70 this year, that would be great. lol I was middle of the pack in 3PA, 3PM, and 3P%. Lol Malone drives me nuts with his 3pt shooting. I have it at the lowest game setting and there's no reason for him to shoot it but he still averaged a 3PA a game which pissed me off. Hakeem is looking scary with 3 attributes/skills almost at 100. Jesus What was that best player in the league talk, again?
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 10:27:08 GMT -6
I'm giving it serious contemplation that I might just let CPU do my TC for me. I'm just skipping it altogether.
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