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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 11:54:42 GMT -6
A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. whoa you went up a total of 270?!? I was an overall -112 255 Actually and that's with one guy going down 23 points.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 11:56:16 GMT -6
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 11:57:09 GMT -6
Darth I never one insinuated that you did anything malicious. I know putting all of these in took a ton of time and it was a lot to do at once. Can you be 100% sure a mistake wasn't made? Do you have the ability to go back and review it? Most of my players did about what I expected, good or bad. But even you have to admit that this one seems weird. Can anyone here recall any instance in which the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR regressed this much? Let's play devil's advocate and say it was accidentally put in wrong, then what? I don't understand what you're trying to accmomplish. Uhhhhhhhh Fix it? ??. Thank's Wig that helps a little.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:01:56 GMT -6
Let's play devil's advocate and say it was accidentally put in wrong, then what? I don't understand what you're trying to accmomplish. Uhhhhhhhh Fix it? ??. Thank's Wig that helps a little. Fix what Wave? You want him to reprogram the game? You want him to undo everything because you have suspicion that one player MIGHT have been done wrong? You can't be serious.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Nov 19, 2013 12:05:01 GMT -6
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 12:09:30 GMT -6
I understand but If I pay for a player to be trained I am going to want to see improvements because I paid points for that particular player. There is a possibility that I could pay for a player training and he could decline. I don't want to take that chance at least not right now. I am sure this feeling will go away in time. It is impossible for whatever player that gets the paid training to decline. It's a guaranteed 5+ points into whatever attribute Eazy. It's not a system thing, I do it by hand. The paid trainings are not random. Ok cool. I guess I was getting a little paranoid. LOL
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Post by JNR on Nov 19, 2013 12:11:24 GMT -6
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Big gains: Campbell + 25 Robert Pack +32 Spud Webb +23
Big losses: Larry Nance -39 Howard Wriht -21 (My only two who lost points)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:15:07 GMT -6
I understand your aggravation sound but it hit others as well. My pg lost 65 points in every area it matters for a pg. Can't do nothing about it. I went from a championship contending team to feeling like I'm not a playoff team anymore and going into rebuilding mode after one tc.i went from having 5 really good players to having 2 and the others being barely starter material.but it is what it is.I have to just take it and move on. Btw there is a high chance of everyone on my team being on the trade block besides Robinson, after the first few weeks of regular season
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 12:18:10 GMT -6
A lot of this is getting blown out of proportion. There were a ton of increases as well; but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and in this case the bas trainings. My team went up a total of like 270 points but i only talked about my rookie going down, see what i mean? wave got the crap end of the stick, sure, but a lot of other people did really well. I understand but If I pay for a player to be trained I am going to want to see improvements because I paid points for that particular player. There is a possibility that I could pay for a player training and he could decline. I don't want to take that chance at least not right now. I am sure this feeling will go away in time. Paying points guarantees a +5 to that rating.
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Post by Conroy on Nov 19, 2013 12:19:32 GMT -6
Celtics: -112 Bill Cartwright: -61
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Post by Bowser on Nov 19, 2013 12:23:23 GMT -6
I understand but If I pay for a player to be trained I am going to want to see improvements because I paid points for that particular player. There is a possibility that I could pay for a player training and he could decline. I don't want to take that chance at least not right now. I am sure this feeling will go away in time. Paying points guarantees a +5 to that rating. Cool.
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 12:23:41 GMT -6
I understand your aggravation sound but it hit others as well. My pg lost 65 points in every area it matters for a pg. Can't do nothing about it. I went from a championship contending team to feeling like I'm not a playoff team anymore and going into rebuilding mode after one tc.i went from having 5 really good players to having 2 and the others being barely starter material.but it is what it is.I have to just take it and move on. Btw there is a high chance of everyone on my team being on the trade block besides Robinson, after the first few weeks of regular season Give me a ring before you trade Starks, if you do.
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 12:24:19 GMT -6
Uhhhhhhhh Fix it? ??. Thank's Wig that helps a little. Fix what Wave? You want him to reprogram the game? You want him to undo everything because you have suspicion that one player MIGHT have been done wrong? You can't be serious. So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word.
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 12:24:21 GMT -6
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Post by jhow0036 on Nov 19, 2013 12:26:36 GMT -6
What is the easiest way to make one of those charts?
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Post by Inner_GI on Nov 19, 2013 12:26:59 GMT -6
Fix what Wave? You want him to reprogram the game? You want him to undo everything because you have suspicion that one player MIGHT have been done wrong? You can't be serious. So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. Ratings before training:
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 12:27:49 GMT -6
Fix what Wave? You want him to reprogram the game? You want him to undo everything because you have suspicion that one player MIGHT have been done wrong? You can't be serious. So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. And I do only mean this if we know for sure a mistake was made.
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 12:31:08 GMT -6
So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. Ratings before training: Thanks Richard, but I knew that already. I wanted this:
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Post by Nick Malone 77 on Nov 19, 2013 12:35:01 GMT -6
So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. And I do only mean this if we know for sure a mistake was made. Just on basic observance without digging too far into the #s were that Sam Bowie and Bimbo really improved up a color while an extra center that I'll probably release downgraded from yellow to orange. So I'll consider that a success. Otherwise I don't know how to do those fancy graphs with how much change my team went through in the offseason. I'm pumped to get the games going again after the offseason turned out to be excellent after just a glance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:36:11 GMT -6
Fix what Wave? You want him to reprogram the game? You want him to undo everything because you have suspicion that one player MIGHT have been done wrong? You can't be serious. So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. You're the only one complaining about a hypothetical fuck up. Everyone else has chosen to see that the truth, the game was very sporatic in TCs. You're the only one asking for ratings behind the scenes. (Confirmed) Everyone is being treated fairly. You're the only one making "hypothetical" accusations. So yes. Deal with it. It sucks that Coleman regressed that much man. You have every single owners empathy on it. I'd be willing to bet EVERY single owner will have to deal with this at one point and time. Everyone has pretty much said the same exact thing. You're a good GM and can adjust. EVEN If something was accidentally done, how would we know sound? Again what's the point of this? Do you really think we should redo this whole thing because you don't like the output?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:38:51 GMT -6
So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. And I do only mean this if we know for sure a mistake was made.We don't and it's likely there wasn't. So let's all move on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:40:52 GMT -6
Wave, I'm not trying to attack you, please know that. again, I have empathy for what happened, but I just think the game f'd you.
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Post by NOLa. on Nov 19, 2013 12:41:23 GMT -6
What is the easiest way to make one of those charts? I just copied and pasted the old and new tables onto one sheet and took the difference between them (New - Old). After that it's just cell format conditioning which there's button on top to do the green/red format
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:42:22 GMT -6
What is the easiest way to make one of those charts? I copied and pasted from 1990 (grabbed the ratings from players on other teams i picked up as well) to current. then copied and pasted the names in another cell block and just did subtraction to get the chart.
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Post by Soundwave on Nov 19, 2013 12:49:24 GMT -6
So just fuck my team? If something got messed up by accident I would just have to suck it up? If 6 first rounders were sent away in a trade when it was supposed to be one, I guess just deal with it? Deal with it when I asked via PM for a screenshot of Coleman's attributes before training and got no reply whatsoever? Maybe I would have seen something and expected it? I would expect every team here to be treated equally and fair. If a mistake was made, which Darth already says didn't happen so this is just hypothetical, I would not want one team to just have to deal with it no matter what it takes to fix. Again, Darth said he did not make a mistake so I will take him at his word. You're the only one complaining about a hypothetical fuck up. Everyone else has chosen to see that the truth, the game was very sporatic in TCs. You're the only one asking for ratings behind the scenes. (Confirmed) Everyone is being treated fairly. You're the only one making "hypothetical" accusations. So yes. Deal with it. It sucks that Coleman regressed that much man. You have every single owners empathy on it. I'd be willing to bet EVERY single owner will have to deal with this at one point and time. Everyone has pretty much said the same exact thing. You're a good GM and can adjust. EVEN If something was accidentally done, how would we know sound? Again what's the point of this? Do you really think we should redo this whole thing because you don't like the output? Did you even read my post? You are the one making the hypotheticals here. You wanted to play devil's advocate, not me. Everything would have been fine if you would have just shut up after I got Darth's and Wig's answers. They gave me what I wanted (or needed) to hear. I asked Darth if he can go back and check. I f he could, and it was proven fact that a mistake was made then I would expect a fix. Since 1. he can't and 2. no mistake was made I will just have to deal with it.
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