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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 26, 2014 21:21:59 GMT -6
DUE JUNE 27, 2014 @ 8:00 PM CST
MESSAGE TO ENTIRE LEAGUE: During this portion of Free Agency, you will be able to bid on the below list of people. These bids will count as your Round 1 bids on these particular players and will be entered into the system on your behalf if the retaining team declines to match. At that point, Free Agency will be left up to the system as normal.
MESSAGE TO RETAINING TEAMS: I will present you with the highest offer on your player and you will have the choice to accept or decline to match that bid. If you accept, this will be manually entered by Darth. If you decline, you can then elect to continue to pursue your player, but the player's decision will be left up to the system as normal. All bids including any you put in on your players will be entered in round 1. If you didn't bid on your guy in round 1, you'll be able to bid on him in the subsequent rounds.
Here are the available Restricted Free Agents for RFA Bidding. Any player not listed will be available in normal free agency.
Dikembe Mutombo Larry Johnson Steve Smith Dale Davis Terrell Brandon Stacey Augmon Billy Owens Bison Dele Greg Anthony Elliot Perry Tharon Mayes
This is the available cap space you have to bid on these players. You will not be allowed to bid over the amount listed in the 'Available RFA $' column. See previous post for any questions.
Team Available RFA $ Suns $13,592,532 Bulls $13,564,854 Grizzlies $8,607,153 Nuggets $8,488,603 76ers $6,760,156 Wizards $6,426,260 Blazers $4,966,783 Cavs $4,025,611 Lakers $3,742,980 Spurs $3,200,811 Bucks $2,926,959 Hornets $2,203,866 Warriors $1,936,985 Kings $1,763,633 Hawks $1,389,850 Pacers $1,216,817 Timberwolves $1,151,233 Knicks $1,043,113 Magic $603,624 Rockets $426,174 Mavericks $356,881 Jazz $38,286 Clippers -$293,751 Celtics -$845,738 Nets -$1,365,774 Heat -$2,183,064 Sonics -$2,446,718 Pistons -$2,679,585 Raptors -$2,835,202
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Soundwave
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 26, 2014 23:03:40 GMT -6
JULY 27th?
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Post by Conroy on Jun 27, 2014 5:12:20 GMT -6
I bid -$845,738 on Larry Johnson...fingers crossed!
On a serious note in theory a team could have the high bid on a player the retaining team could decide not to match but still get lucky and sign him for less in normal FA?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 6:36:26 GMT -6
I bid -$845,738 on Larry Johnson...fingers crossed! On a serious note in theory a team could have the high bid on a player the retaining team could decide not to match but still get lucky and sign him for less in normal FA? Not really. I'll let tray explain though.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 8:23:24 GMT -6
I bid -$845,738 on Larry Johnson...fingers crossed! On a serious note in theory a team could have the high bid on a player the retaining team could decide not to match but still get lucky and sign him for less in normal FA? You lose bird rights, but this is true in a sense. You decline to match, it doesn't mean you can't get him by the mercy of the sim gods. They way we understand this version of the game is that the player always takes the most money. It'll be interesting to see if that holds true here. In summary, you can still bid, but once you decline to match, they are a normal UFA and you're at the programs mercy.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 9:29:49 GMT -6
Updated original post to reflect Conroy's question.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 9:38:27 GMT -6
Updated to reflect the correct date
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 9:54:22 GMT -6
Bump OP - You won't be able to change your bid before round 1 if you decline to match the highest offer. This wasn't clear in my original post.
Most of the communication failures on this new policy are my own. I am sorry for the confusion and will do better at some point.
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Post by nicolascajun on Jun 27, 2014 10:37:39 GMT -6
Here is my last concern: What is too stop people from throwing max offers at everyone? Somebody could max a player in restricted FA so they are forced to decline. Since you can't steal restricted FA's from this bid, what is too stop them from lowering their bid once the actual FA period starts? They screw me over and they get a chance at my FA outside of restricted FA. Do y'all have a way to prevent this douchbaggery?
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 10:41:42 GMT -6
Here is my last concern: What is too stop people from throwing max offers at everyone? Somebody could max a player in restricted FA so they are forced to decline. Since you can't steal restricted FA's from this bid, what is too stop them from lowering their bid once the actual FA period starts? They screw me over and they get a chance at my FA outside of restricted FA. Do y'all have a way to prevent this douchbaggery? They can't change their round 1 bid and are on the hook if the computer chooses them. You won't be able to through out a bunch of max bids in RFA because no one has the cap space to work with. If after round 1, the player hasn't chosen a max it likes, then everyone else could elect to reduce their max bids including the team that had the player before. Hornets told Gordon, this is our offer, go find something better. It didn't change the fact that they were sticking to their offer until he chose the max they had to match.
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Post by nicolascajun on Jun 27, 2014 10:43:53 GMT -6
Here is my last concern: What is too stop people from throwing max offers at everyone? Somebody could max a player in restricted FA so they are forced to decline. Since you can't steal restricted FA's from this bid, what is too stop them from lowering their bid once the actual FA period starts? They screw me over and they get a chance at my FA outside of restricted FA. Do y'all have a way to prevent this douchbaggery? They can't change their round 1 bid and are on the hook if the computer chooses them. You won't be able to through out a bunch of max bids in RFA because no one has the cap space to work with. If after round 1, the player hasn't chosen a max it likes, then everyone else could elect to reduce their max bids including the team that had the player before. Hornets told Gordon, this is our offer, go find something better. It didn't change the fact that they were sticking to their offer until he chose the max they had to match. That eases my fears a bit. I can bid on my own player?
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 10:48:24 GMT -6
They can't change their round 1 bid and are on the hook if the computer chooses them. You won't be able to through out a bunch of max bids in RFA because no one has the cap space to work with. If after round 1, the player hasn't chosen a max it likes, then everyone else could elect to reduce their max bids including the team that had the player before. Hornets told Gordon, this is our offer, go find something better. It didn't change the fact that they were sticking to their offer until he chose the max they had to match. That eases my fears a bit. I can bid on my own player? Yeah, you can. You'll still get the highest offer to match or not, but if you decline, at least your bid is still on the table. I didn't bid on LJ or Perry because I wanted to see the highest bid. So if I decline, I can't bid on them until round 2 if they make it that far.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 10:50:30 GMT -6
Had I bid on them and then declined the highest offer, there would still be a chance I guess that the computer would choose me over another teams better offer. Doubtful. I would have lost bird years but guess they could have possibly been in a Pistons jersey still next year.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 10:52:53 GMT -6
I am curious if we aren't seeing a lot of bids on these RFAs because people don't have money to spend, they don't see anyone that won't be matched, or their head is spinning from the new change and haven't been able to digest it yet.
Throw out your questions. More importantly, throw out your bids. 8 hours until the RFA deadline hits and retaining teams are given a chance to match the highest bid.
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Post by J2 on Jun 27, 2014 11:13:19 GMT -6
I am curious if we aren't seeing a lot of bids on these RFAs because people don't have money to spend, they don't see anyone that won't be matched, or their head is spinning from the new change and haven't been able to digest it yet. Throw out your questions. More importantly, throw out your bids. 8 hours until the RFA deadline hits and retaining teams are given a chance to match the highest bid. I think this is it. Next season and beyond will see more bids, because the talent pool will be more diverse, and the consequences of matching will be higher. Right now it's safe to assume that these guys will all be staying unless something crazy is thrown out there.
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 27, 2014 11:15:23 GMT -6
I didn't bid on LJ or Perry because I wanted to see the highest bid. So if I decline, I can't bid on them until round 2 if they make it that far. If nobody else bids on them either during RFA, they hit UFA and you get to bid on them at the same time as everyone else, correct?
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 11:17:54 GMT -6
I didn't bid on LJ or Perry because I wanted to see the highest bid. So if I decline, I can't bid on them until round 2 if they make it that far. If nobody else bids on them either during RFA, they hit UFA and you get to bid on them at the same time as everyone else, correct? I'll still get an option to match. Remember, the player offer is still in play. If no one else bids, then the player offer or the retaining team offer will likely be the bid that is available to except.
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Post by Inner_GI on Jun 27, 2014 11:31:33 GMT -6
I'm about to throw maxes at everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 11:36:39 GMT -6
I'm about to throw maxes at everyone! May as well; no issue with hitting the tax tbh.
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Post by Inner_GI on Jun 27, 2014 11:39:52 GMT -6
So is the 5 year max gone from the game? I confused how that is even possible with RFA now. If I can only do 4 year 10%, why/how would a team accept/decline a 5 yr max?
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 11:42:24 GMT -6
So is the 5 year max gone from the game? I confused how that is even possible with RFA now. If I can only do 4 year 10%, why/how would a team accept/decline a 5 yr max? Like in my case, I offered Smith a 5-yr max cause I was retaining him. The extra money per year is better than what that 5th year will cost me in 1999's UFA. Only I had the opportunity to offer him that contract.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 11:43:10 GMT -6
There are few cases where one might want to extend that sort of deal to their rookie.
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Post by LoCo89 on Jun 27, 2014 11:43:18 GMT -6
So is the 5 year max gone from the game? I confused how that is even possible with RFA now. If I can only do 4 year 10%, why/how would a team accept/decline a 5 yr max? Security, also you can still throw out the 5 years to other players that,you have bird rights to that aren't coming off rookie deal
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 27, 2014 11:43:40 GMT -6
I'm about to throw maxes at everyone! We need someone to shake this shit up. Go crazy.
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Post by Inner_GI on Jun 27, 2014 11:46:03 GMT -6
So is the 5 year max gone from the game? I confused how that is even possible with RFA now. If I can only do 4 year 10%, why/how would a team accept/decline a 5 yr max? Like in my case, I offered Smith a 5-yr max cause I was retaining him. The extra money per year is better than what that 5th year will cost me in 1999's UFA. Only I had the opportunity to offer him that contract. Still confused. So you can bid on Smith during this RFA phase, and you can bid the 5 year max? I don't have a RFA, so I'm just wondering for the future, when Stoudamire takes over the league (i hope).
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