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Post by IamQuailman on Jun 26, 2014 8:29:58 GMT -6
This is a feature, not a bug, of RFA. You are supposed to have tough decisions to make. So if I accept the Qualifying offer why other teams get to bid, shouldn't he should sign with me if I accept. No, and the main reason why is that in real RFA, we can make an offer to our own guy.... Eric Gordon for what we feel is "reasonable". As a RFA, Gordon has a right to go out and get bid on by other teams during a certain period. But as the original team, you can match any bid a team makes.... If you so choose. Usually this run concurrently with all FA, but we are breaking it out so that you have to accept or decline before we actually start FA (unlike in our PR league where AD23 waited until the 11th hour to match inner's winning bid for Barbosa, really screwing him out of FA bidding and FAs).
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Post by IamQuailman on Jun 26, 2014 8:34:44 GMT -6
In other words, RFA happens first. THEN Round 1 of FA. If a guy declines to match you bids on their own player in RFA, those bids stay in through round one.
Example: Conroy bids max on Tharon Mayes because he's a talent hoarder. Wig does not match during RFA. The bid Conroy submitted (and ALL OTHER BIDS SUBMITTED FOR MAYES) stay in the game for round 1 of FA. In round 2, you can change your offer if he doesn't sign anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 8:41:11 GMT -6
Edge case: I offer a QO. I bid a 4 year vet min. Nobody else bids. Do I get him for the vet min or does he fall intoFA? Edge case 2: I offer a QO. I bid a 4 year max. Nobody else bids. Does he fall into FA or do I get him at the max? In other words, does there have to be at least one OTHER bid in on a guy for highest offer to win in RFA? And if there isn't does he fall into UFA (and even if I offered him the max I could lose him to an equal offer a la Pervis?) Wig i wanted to update this. I was unclear in my answer. #1 is only yes if the computers demands are a min offer. I should have been more specific. So it takes the greatest value between bids or the computer's demands to match.
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Post by rpf on Jun 26, 2014 8:46:15 GMT -6
ok i have a question, what if i dont have cap space could you still accept the QO?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 8:47:29 GMT -6
ok i have a question, what if i dont have cap space could you still accept the QO? Yes
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Post by rpf on Jun 26, 2014 8:48:45 GMT -6
ok i have a question, what if i dont have cap space could you still accept the QO? Yes never thought i'd get an answer from BSH that i'd like lol
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Post by Conroy on Jun 26, 2014 9:08:08 GMT -6
In other words, RFA happens first. THEN Round 1 of FA. If a guy declines to match you bids on their own player in RFA, those bids stay in through round one. Example: Conroy bids max on Tharon Mayes because he's a talent hoarder. Wig does not match during RFA. The bid Conroy submitted (and ALL OTHER BIDS SUBMITTED FOR MAYES) stay in the game for round 1 of FA. In round 2, you can change your offer if he doesn't sign anywhere. Insult my talent acquisitions one more time and I'm coming for you...
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Post by Bowser on Jun 26, 2014 9:14:29 GMT -6
Ok I think I understand this process little better now.
The temporary hold on my cap gives me the right to match any offer because before this rule was put in he would become a free agent and I would have to hope my player resign.
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 26, 2014 9:15:29 GMT -6
Can I offer my own player a 5 yr 11% contract?
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Post by Conroy on Jun 26, 2014 9:18:43 GMT -6
So let's say I wanna resign Zo next year to a 5 year deal instead of 4. Do I decline his QO, offer him say 5 yrs around the max at 10% and either he signs that contract or I match whatever one he does sign is that correct? Or do I have to offer him the super max to get the 5th year?
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Post by nicolascajun on Jun 26, 2014 9:39:44 GMT -6
Let's say I bid the 4 year vet minimum, and the CPU picks my bid. Does that mean the original team can match my offer in which case the league will get screwed? Or does the original team still have to match the highest bid?
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 26, 2014 9:40:11 GMT -6
5 year deals have to be super-maxes just to keep things simple.
All other teams are offering 4 year 10% increases every time. The only number you need provide is the starting salary.
The retaining team can elect to offer the max but it will always be a 5 yr 12.5% deal. Otherwise, the retaining team will just match the best offer.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 26, 2014 9:41:55 GMT -6
Let's say I bid the 4 year vet minimum, and the CPU picks my bid. Does that mean the original team can match my offer in which case the league will get screwed? Or does the original team still have to match the highest bid? The CPU actually won't get a chance to pick the offer until after the retaining team declines the best offer for their player. Then bids are input and whoever the computer selects gets to keep that player without fear of the retaining team matching.
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Post by Bowser on Jun 26, 2014 9:50:07 GMT -6
5 year deals have to be super-maxes just to keep things simple. All other teams are offering 4 year 10% increases every time. The only number you need provide is the starting salary. The retaining team can elect to offer the max but it will always be a 5 yr 12.5% deal. Otherwise, the retaining team will just match the best offer. During the RFA period?
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Post by nicolascajun on Jun 26, 2014 10:06:50 GMT -6
Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by janjanjanjan on Jun 26, 2014 10:13:54 GMT -6
Can we offer front loaded contracts?
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 26, 2014 10:55:31 GMT -6
Can we offer front loaded contracts? No
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 26, 2014 10:55:41 GMT -6
5 year deals have to be super-maxes just to keep things simple. All other teams are offering 4 year 10% increases every time. The only number you need provide is the starting salary. The retaining team can elect to offer the max but it will always be a 5 yr 12.5% deal. Otherwise, the retaining team will just match the best offer. During the RFA period? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 11:02:39 GMT -6
Can we offer front loaded contracts? Nope
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Post by DarthVegito on Jun 26, 2014 11:05:35 GMT -6
Can we offer front loaded contracts? Negative :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 11:21:55 GMT -6
Please do not send in bids. We as an admin team need to place ours first so we can't be accused of outbidding people after seeing bids .
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Post by nicolascajun on Jun 26, 2014 11:25:24 GMT -6
Well my bids were pathetic and impossible not to beat, but I understand.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 26, 2014 19:50:19 GMT -6
I'll have the pool of RFAs posted soon. At that point, if you want to bid on this group of guys, you'll have to send them into me and Darth.
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 26, 2014 23:07:54 GMT -6
Will we know the team that had the high bid before we choose to accept or decline? It could make a difference in decision making.
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 27, 2014 8:14:30 GMT -6
Bump?
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