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Post by IamQuailman on Feb 22, 2014 16:13:59 GMT -6
Vote me. Because I improved 10 games despite being in the most competitive division in the NBA.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Feb 22, 2014 16:25:03 GMT -6
Vote me. Because I improved 10 games despite being in the most competitive division in the NBA. Every time someone improves by 10 games an angel gets his wings.
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Post by IamQuailman on Feb 22, 2014 17:49:30 GMT -6
And I managed to get younger at the 3 while bringing in a starter (Otis Thorpe) and key depth in Terry Porter and Anthony Mason.
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Post by Inner_GI on Mar 3, 2014 18:17:46 GMT -6
Also I got ten more wins this year than last. I got 10 more wins from my first season, and I wasn't mentioned in GMOY last year. Just sayin
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Post by 78 on Mar 3, 2014 18:25:28 GMT -6
I got 18 more wins from last season by I don't deserve any consideration for GM of the Year award.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 18:27:10 GMT -6
I got 18 more wins from last season by I don't deserve any consideration for GM of the Year award. A little more and i would have had you 3.
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Post by nicolascajun on Mar 4, 2014 12:18:39 GMT -6
Conroy gets my vote. I thought he was rebuilding, but he took balls to game 7 in a championship series. Joke is on me.
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Post by DarthVegito on Mar 4, 2014 12:23:25 GMT -6
Conroy gets my vote. I thought he was rebuilding, but he took balls to game 7 in a championship series. Joke is on me. This is why we gotta end this voting before the playoffs next year..Lol
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Mar 4, 2014 13:46:20 GMT -6
Conroy gets my vote. I thought he was rebuilding, but he took balls to game 7 in a championship series. Joke is on me. This is why we gotta end this voting before the playoffs next year..Lol This award stopped being a regular season award once ballots stayed open into the offseason.
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 4, 2014 16:06:21 GMT -6
This is why we gotta end this voting before the playoffs next year..Lol This award stopped being a regular season award once ballots stayed open into the offseason. Last season was run the same way and no one complained then. We'll work something out next year then, either to vote closing by end of game 7 of round 1 or to include playoff performance into award. One of the two.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 16:07:18 GMT -6
I really don't understand why people can't just take playoff performance out of the scope of this award, but it's pretty clear we as a league can't.
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Post by DarthVegito on Mar 4, 2014 16:22:13 GMT -6
This award stopped being a regular season award once ballots stayed open into the offseason. Last season was run the same way and no one complained then. We'll work something out next year then, either to vote closing by end of game 7 of round 1 or to include playoff performance into award. One of the two. Not complaining as much as what balls said. I think it's more obvious that ppl can't take the playoff results out of their thoughts.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Mar 4, 2014 17:28:52 GMT -6
This award stopped being a regular season award once ballots stayed open into the offseason. Last season was run the same way and no one complained then. We'll work something out next year then, either to vote closing by end of game 7 of round 1 or to include playoff performance into award. One of the two. I'm pretty sure voting ended early. This is two days after the end of the season. I can't imagine we had a similar problem last year.
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 4, 2014 18:19:03 GMT -6
Last season was run the same way and no one complained then. We'll work something out next year then, either to vote closing by end of game 7 of round 1 or to include playoff performance into award. One of the two. I'm pretty sure voting ended early. This is two days after the end of the season. I can't imagine we had a similar problem last year. Last years playoffs stretched out almost over 2 weeks. Almost the exact same time frame. Voting ended around the same time, but we flew through the conf finals this time around... so I didn't expect that when the deadline was... I basically took the amount of time we had for voting last time and made it for the same duration this time.
Last time, I actually extended the voting to being open for a few extra days cuz we didn't have enough votes, iirc.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Mar 4, 2014 18:48:44 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure voting ended early. This is two days after the end of the season. I can't imagine we had a similar problem last year. Last years playoffs stretched out almost over 2 weeks. Almost the exact same time frame. Voting ended around the same time, but we flew through the conf finals this time around... so I didn't expect that when the deadline was... I basically took the amount of time we had for voting last time and made it for the same duration this time.
Last time, I actually extended the voting to being open for a few extra days cuz we didn't have enough votes, iirc.
I don't have any complaints about the way you handled it. It's the first time I think postseason had this much influence. You couldn't have foreseen that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 19:46:38 GMT -6
Last years playoffs stretched out almost over 2 weeks. Almost the exact same time frame. Voting ended around the same time, but we flew through the conf finals this time around... so I didn't expect that when the deadline was... I basically took the amount of time we had for voting last time and made it for the same duration this time.
Last time, I actually extended the voting to being open for a few extra days cuz we didn't have enough votes, iirc.
I don't have any complaints about the way you handled it. It's the first time I think postseason had this much influence. You couldn't have foreseen that. I think it's been blown out of proportion a bit. We don't even know if it has a huge influence or not. A couple of people have written who they voted for and why.. That;s about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 19:55:19 GMT -6
Like i think it's factored somewhat into the discussion; but i guess we will see. I think one vote taken out of context is wrong (i.e. post season vs reg season) but i don't think the league as a whole is going to vote wrong.
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Post by Conroy on Mar 4, 2014 20:09:21 GMT -6
Out of all of the awards I don't see why taking post season success into account for this one is so bad. Dating back to the old league I didn't like to vote for a team who didn't win a playoff series. I understand I'm coming off as super bias here but my honest take
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Post by nicolascajun on Mar 5, 2014 14:31:46 GMT -6
I wasn't using Conroy's postseason success as a factor; my vote mainly stems from him making the playoffs when I thought he was in a rebuilding stage. I didn't think he would do so well, and his postseason success was the icing on the cake.
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Post by WigNosy on Mar 5, 2014 17:49:00 GMT -6
Out of all of the awards I don't see why taking post season success into account for this one is so bad. Dating back to the old league I didn't like to vote for a team who didn't win a playoff series. I understand I'm coming off as super bias here but my honest take In theory (in real life), GMOY votes are submitted before the start of the playoffs - so barring a time machine, there's no real way to include "postseason success" as a criterion. Heck, if we're using "postseason success" to judge GMOY, we may as well just make the League Champion the GMOY and save us all the trouble of voting.
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Post by nicolascajun on Mar 5, 2014 18:01:20 GMT -6
Out of all of the awards I don't see why taking post season success into account for this one is so bad. Dating back to the old league I didn't like to vote for a team who didn't win a playoff series. I understand I'm coming off as super bias here but my honest take In theory (in real life), GMOY votes are submitted before the start of the playoffs - so barring a time machine, there's no real way to include "postseason success" as a criterion. Heck, if we're using "postseason success" to judge GMOY, we may as well just make the League Champion the GMOY and save us all the trouble of voting. I agree, but the guy would have gotten my vote regardless. He did a great job with the team he had.
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Post by Conroy on Mar 6, 2014 8:01:46 GMT -6
Out of all of the awards I don't see why taking post season success into account for this one is so bad. Dating back to the old league I didn't like to vote for a team who didn't win a playoff series. I understand I'm coming off as super bias here but my honest take In theory (in real life), GMOY votes are submitted before the start of the playoffs - so barring a time machine, there's no real way to include "postseason success" as a criterion. Heck, if we're using "postseason success" to judge GMOY, we may as well just make the League Champion the GMOY and save us all the trouble of voting. Ok to play devil's advocate if it's only the regular season that matters why don't we save everyone the trouble of voting and just give it to whoever improves their record by the most games in the regular season?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 8:11:59 GMT -6
In theory (in real life), GMOY votes are submitted before the start of the playoffs - so barring a time machine, there's no real way to include "postseason success" as a criterion. Heck, if we're using "postseason success" to judge GMOY, we may as well just make the League Champion the GMOY and save us all the trouble of voting. Ok to play devil's advocate if it's only the regular season that matters why don't we save everyone the trouble of voting and just give it to whoever improves their record by the most games in the regular season? Because someone could have done somethng stupid to get that record; ie mortgage their future to make 1 run. Whereas another owner could have taken his team from the jaws of death and set themselves up for the future. this isn't a debate and this award WILL be done before end of season next year per the commish. The spirit of the award is for regular season which imo you have/had a great claim to to begin with.
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Post by DarthVegito on Mar 6, 2014 12:12:46 GMT -6
I'll say this and be done with it. This was MY fault. Doug did nothing wrong by doing it how he did because this was how it was done the previous year as well. But just so happened that the playoffs didn't play a part in the results that year. It did this year and I think it's obvious that it did. It's not about giving it to the team with the most improved win%. It's about a lot of things done during the offseason before and regular season. You both made moves and whatnot that were what and what as described. But fact of the matter is that Tray won the Conference and Conroy was a 6th seed. That is how they finished the season. Voting should have ended there. People will judge that differently than I do and that is their right to do so. If that happened does these results turn out differently? We won't know. I think the voting results would have changed and I understand Tray's disgust. I did apologize to him for it not being run a little better. I apologize to Conroy as well, you won this award and now there is drama around it. You didn't cause this. You won by the people's vote. Once again not Conroy's fault and not Doug's fault. This is on me. I apologize to all those in the GMOY race. These awards WILL end before the playoffs start next season without a doubt. It's my job to try and prevent these thing before they happen and I dropped the ball on this one.
Another change will be that if you don't vote at all and win an award, your winnings WILL be forfeited and you will claim 0 points.
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Post by Conroy on Mar 6, 2014 13:04:42 GMT -6
Can I seriously send the award back somewhere? I don't want it, Sound I'll sell it to you for 2 second rounders and you can call yourself a 2x winner.
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