J2
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Post by J2 on Mar 19, 2014 13:33:29 GMT -6
I've always been of the mindset that if you're not firmly in the playoff hunt, you should do whatever you have to do to get better, and if losing is what's necessary, so be it. I've actually hurt my squads both in both leagues by sticking to a "no tanking" mentality, and I'll tell you, the moral victory isn't enough sometimes.
Also what a lot of people don't quite understand is that when you're a middling team who needs to rebuild, it's hard as hell to get fair value for your guys.......unless you trape someone who's lower on the totem pole. Think of it. You're the one who's often at a disadvantage. Teams with adequate value aren't going to help you rebuild by detonating their team for your superstar. They're not obligated to help you out, it's actually in their best interests to ignore you and keep you stuck in neutral. I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but if anyone's wondered why I haven't rebuilt my clearly struggling team yet, it's because there's been a lack of deals that don't immediately put me in "fire sale" mode, which apparently equals "tank mode" to a lot of people. And the "win now" deals put me in a situation to where if I don't do just that, win now, I'll be forced to hold a fire sale or risk losing them for nothing. Trust me, when it's time to unload your superstar because things just aren't clicking, you'll understand the struggle. Sometimes all you can do is say "screw it" and unload the guy for your pick back, or drop him for expirings for cap space.
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 19, 2014 13:53:52 GMT -6
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 19, 2014 14:05:32 GMT -6
Oh My God
I forgot to update you guys. Poll is up and results will be locked on Friday at 12:00 Central
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 19, 2014 14:05:45 GMT -6
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Post by Inner_GI on Mar 19, 2014 15:44:25 GMT -6
Glen Rice was my "rebuild." I said to myself... if I let Hakeem go, I need to be getting assets that keep me competitive in the short term, but set me up well in the long term. BSH came very close to getting Hakeem (I won't discuss what players were involved, but both left his team this year). I wasn't willing to offer 1 of them the max, and the other was declining hard and fast, so I asked for a draft pick to be included. That broke the deal. In that scenario, I would of probably stayed about same win % but been younger, and a extra draft pick. That's the route I would have gone, and if it wasn't for my relunctance to trade Hakeem within the division, I probably wouldn't have needed the draft pick... Regarding our trade.. It was more like u can have 2/3 assets. So either both players and no pick or 1 player and a pick. But yes, the Championship Lakers were very very close to getting Hakeem. It was also hard to foresee that LJ would drop again that much again. I was pretty much planning on him staying the same. The game had other plans. And LJ is exactly why I wanted all 3 assets. I didn't want to get boned by the game. Looking back on it, I think I made the right choice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 16:03:52 GMT -6
Regarding our trade.. It was more like u can have 2/3 assets. So either both players and no pick or 1 player and a pick. But yes, the Championship Lakers were very very close to getting Hakeem. It was also hard to foresee that LJ would drop again that much again. I was pretty much planning on him staying the same. The game had other plans. And LJ is exactly why I wanted all 3 assets. I didn't want to get boned by the game. Looking back on it, I think I made the right choice. I guess if LJ was truely the problem then you shoulda picked the other player and the pick. TBH i think you just wanted everything you could get for him and more (and i can't blame you) which it was a price I was not willing to pay. I couldn't gut my whole team to trade for Hakeem and still expect to win a championship. No hard feelings here. Just like you, i think i made the right decision as well; and have a trophy to show for it
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Post by Inner_GI on Mar 19, 2014 18:02:47 GMT -6
And LJ is exactly why I wanted all 3 assets. I didn't want to get boned by the game. Looking back on it, I think I made the right choice. I guess if LJ was truely the problem then you shoulda picked the other player and the pick. TBH i think you just wanted everything you could get for him and more (and i can't blame you) which it was a price I was not willing to pay. I couldn't gut my whole team to trade for Hakeem and still expect to win a championship. No hard feelings here. Just like you, i think i made the right decision as well; and have a trophy to show for it Totally, and I wasn't 100% sure on giving the max to the other player. It's whatever. After our talks stopped you won a championship. Ain't no better decision than that. lol
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 19, 2014 19:41:55 GMT -6
Wow, do we have two new members on watch already?
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 19, 2014 19:49:42 GMT -6
Wow, do we have two new members on watch already? Suns officially on #TankRank?
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Post by coltsguy510 on Mar 19, 2014 19:59:14 GMT -6
Wow, do we have two new members on watch already? Suns officially on #TankRank? Yes please!
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Post by Inner_GI on Mar 19, 2014 20:08:10 GMT -6
Wow, do we have two new members on watch already? Suns officially on #TankRank? Yep, right after I trade away Hakeem and Rice.
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 19, 2014 20:34:45 GMT -6
Suns officially on #TankRank? Yep, right after I trade away Hakeem and Rice. BLOCKBUSTER TRADE???
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Mar 20, 2014 6:53:25 GMT -6
76ers should make their way on this list for a different variable. They used recommended and went 1-4. Apparently they are neither tanking nor rebuilding.
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 20, 2014 7:05:28 GMT -6
76ers should make their way on this list for a different variable. They used recommended and went 1-4. Apparently they are neither tanking nor rebuilding. They are literally 8 players deep, with one injured lol... Once Ron Harper returns, he'll be ok I think. What he needs to do is get some depth though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 7:06:43 GMT -6
76ers should make their way on this list for a different variable. They used recommended and went 1-4. Apparently they are neither tanking nor rebuilding. They are literally 8 players deep, with one injured lol... Once Ron Harper returns, he'll be ok I think. What he needs to do is get some depth though If that's true, let's give Ron the MVP.
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 20, 2014 7:09:56 GMT -6
They are literally 8 players deep, with one injured lol... Once Ron Harper returns, he'll be ok I think. What he needs to do is get some depth though If that's true, let's give Ron the MVP. I mean it's not 100% true, but the guy was his projected starting 3. When you go from Ron Harper to Doug Edwards (who?), that's a pretty big hit to your starting 5. In the 3 offensive categories alone (Ins, Jps, 3ps), there is a difference of 161 points between Ron Harper and Doug Edwards.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 7:22:32 GMT -6
If that's true, let's give Ron the MVP. I mean it's not 100% true, but the guy was his projected starting 3. When you go from Ron Harper to Doug Edwards (who?), that's a pretty big hit to your starting 5. In the 3 offensive categories alone (Ins, Jps, 3ps), there is a difference of 161 points between Ron Harper and Doug Edwards. What are you even arguing? It clearly was a joke.
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Post by NOLa. on Mar 20, 2014 7:24:01 GMT -6
I mean it's not 100% true, but the guy was his projected starting 3. When you go from Ron Harper to Doug Edwards (who?), that's a pretty big hit to your starting 5. In the 3 offensive categories alone (Ins, Jps, 3ps), there is a difference of 161 points between Ron Harper and Doug Edwards. What are you even arguing? It clearly was a joke. #TankRank is super srs business
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 20, 2014 7:27:14 GMT -6
I mean it's not 100% true, but the guy was his projected starting 3. When you go from Ron Harper to Doug Edwards (who?), that's a pretty big hit to your starting 5. In the 3 offensive categories alone (Ins, Jps, 3ps), there is a difference of 161 points between Ron Harper and Doug Edwards. What are you even arguing? It clearly was a joke. BO MA BOY, BRO (alliteration fun in the AM)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 7:45:11 GMT -6
What are you even arguing? It clearly was a joke. BO MA BOY, BRO (alliteration fun in the AM) Sounds like a trapeing is brewing.
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 20, 2014 7:49:07 GMT -6
BO MA BOY, BRO (alliteration fun in the AM) Sounds like a trapeing is brewing. nah
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 7:53:43 GMT -6
Sounds like a trapeing is brewing. nah That's exactly what a traper or a trapee would say
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Post by IamQuailman on Mar 20, 2014 7:55:16 GMT -6
That's exactly what a traper or a trapee would say HOW ABERT YOU RESPERND ON GCHERT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 7:58:58 GMT -6
Lol
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rpf
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Post by rpf on Mar 21, 2014 6:37:18 GMT -6
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