Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 12:13:14 GMT -6
Disclaimer: Tray deserves credit for getting all of this in spreadsheet form. He was probably the main reason this is happening. There is no way I would have done this without that.
Good afternoon sim leaguers. After a long offseason and a binge with nola. and Sounwave last night. I've pulled the needles out my arms, thrown up all the alcohol, and shat out all the fast food from a serious bender after Larry Johnson decided to break his back in the offseason slaying bitches and enjoying the fame of the prestigious ROY award. I can't say I blame him because it's not like people haven't fallen in this trap before. I'm assuming LJ and D Coleman are lifelong friends and follow the same regimen. With all that bullshit out of the way (apparently this is how i cope), I am working on a statistical comparison by position on players on their attributes versus the mean (average for people still in high school).
The results has some pretty obvious answers and had some pretty big surprises to me. Now a few things of note. There was no weighting done here which 'could be' important for some of the big positions, but when you factor in the fact that it measures versus the mean of a particular position base i'm relatively sure it's pretty accurate.
Overall Centers:
Tier 1 2 Standard Deviations better than mean
1. David Robinson
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
Tier 2 1.99-1.50 Standard Deviations above mean
1. Vlade Divac
2. Patrick Ewing
3. Alonzo Mourning
4. Pervis Ellison
5. Otis Thorpe
5. Kevin Willis
6. Elden Campbell
7. Brad Lohas
Tier 3 1.2-1.5 Standard Deviations above mean
1. Rony Seikaly
2. Hot Rod Williams
3. Shaq O'Neal
4. Beniot Benjamin
5. Rik Smits
6. Wayman Tisdale
7. J.R. Reid
8. Duane Causewell
Biggest Surprise
Shaq Being Ranked 14
I in no way think Shaq is the 14th ranked Center even at 20, but it speaks to his game being an all inside presence and having severe issues with jump shooting, free throws and ball handling.
Bucks having 2 Centers in the top 10.
The Hawks are sneaky good in evaluating talent. Never would I have though Pervis would be in the discussion for top 5.
Vlade, he's got a great overall game.
Now I wanted to give a top by by Specialization
Inside Man This includes Strength, Jump, Offensive Rebound, Inside and FT (due to drawing fouls)
1. David Robinson
2. Shaq O'Neal
3. Alonzo Mourning
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Pervis Ellison
Honorable mention
Otis Thorpe
Parick Ewing
The Garbage Man This includes Str, Jump, Offensive Rebound and Defensive Rebound
1. Shaq O'Neal
2. David Robinson
3. Pervis Ellison
4. Alonzo Mourning
5. Rony Seikaly
The Defensive Big Includes Str, Jump, Quickness, Post D, Block and Steal
1. David Robinson
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Vlade Divac
4. Alonzo Moutning
5. Patrick Ewing
The Freak Includes Athletic attributes besides Sta
1. Alonzo Mourning
2. Pervis Ellison
3. Shaq O'Neal
4. Terry Davis
5. David Robsinson
The Snipers All Shooting Attributes
1. Matt Bullard
2. Brad Lohas
3. Bill Lambeer
4. Pete Chilcutt
5. Tom Chambers
Good afternoon sim leaguers. After a long offseason and a binge with nola. and Sounwave last night. I've pulled the needles out my arms, thrown up all the alcohol, and shat out all the fast food from a serious bender after Larry Johnson decided to break his back in the offseason slaying bitches and enjoying the fame of the prestigious ROY award. I can't say I blame him because it's not like people haven't fallen in this trap before. I'm assuming LJ and D Coleman are lifelong friends and follow the same regimen. With all that bullshit out of the way (apparently this is how i cope), I am working on a statistical comparison by position on players on their attributes versus the mean (average for people still in high school).
The results has some pretty obvious answers and had some pretty big surprises to me. Now a few things of note. There was no weighting done here which 'could be' important for some of the big positions, but when you factor in the fact that it measures versus the mean of a particular position base i'm relatively sure it's pretty accurate.
Overall Centers:
Tier 1 2 Standard Deviations better than mean
1. David Robinson
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
Tier 2 1.99-1.50 Standard Deviations above mean
1. Vlade Divac
2. Patrick Ewing
3. Alonzo Mourning
4. Pervis Ellison
5. Otis Thorpe
5. Kevin Willis
6. Elden Campbell
7. Brad Lohas
Tier 3 1.2-1.5 Standard Deviations above mean
1. Rony Seikaly
2. Hot Rod Williams
3. Shaq O'Neal
4. Beniot Benjamin
5. Rik Smits
6. Wayman Tisdale
7. J.R. Reid
8. Duane Causewell
Biggest Surprise
Shaq Being Ranked 14
I in no way think Shaq is the 14th ranked Center even at 20, but it speaks to his game being an all inside presence and having severe issues with jump shooting, free throws and ball handling.
Bucks having 2 Centers in the top 10.
The Hawks are sneaky good in evaluating talent. Never would I have though Pervis would be in the discussion for top 5.
Vlade, he's got a great overall game.
Now I wanted to give a top by by Specialization
Inside Man This includes Strength, Jump, Offensive Rebound, Inside and FT (due to drawing fouls)
1. David Robinson
2. Shaq O'Neal
3. Alonzo Mourning
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Pervis Ellison
Honorable mention
Otis Thorpe
Parick Ewing
The Garbage Man This includes Str, Jump, Offensive Rebound and Defensive Rebound
1. Shaq O'Neal
2. David Robinson
3. Pervis Ellison
4. Alonzo Mourning
5. Rony Seikaly
The Defensive Big Includes Str, Jump, Quickness, Post D, Block and Steal
1. David Robinson
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Vlade Divac
4. Alonzo Moutning
5. Patrick Ewing
The Freak Includes Athletic attributes besides Sta
1. Alonzo Mourning
2. Pervis Ellison
3. Shaq O'Neal
4. Terry Davis
5. David Robsinson
The Snipers All Shooting Attributes
1. Matt Bullard
2. Brad Lohas
3. Bill Lambeer
4. Pete Chilcutt
5. Tom Chambers