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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 10:04:11 GMT -6
Welcome to the #SLOE 1991 NBA Redraft! Today, both Balls and I will act as the GM for each team and pick players based on a combination of Year 1 to now, as well as their potential growth in the future. It will go in "snake" format -- I will pick the first overall pick, Balls will select #2 and #3, I will pick #4 and #5, etc. We'll be evaluating players through pick #20. Sit back, relax and enjoy players you missed out on with your pick!
PLEASE DO NOT POST UNTIL IT IS COMPLETED!
Below are the original draft order and the original picks; we will track the movement of the players here: #1 - Miami Heat - Dikembe Mutombo Stacey Augmon +6 #2 - Los Angeles Lakers - Larry Johnson Steve Smith +1 #3 - Detroit Pistons - Steve Smith Dale Davis +2 #4 - Houston Rockets - Kenny Anderson Chris Gatling +5 #5 - San Antonio Spurs - Dale Davis Dikembe Mutombo -4 #6 - Seattle Supersonics - Terrell Brandon Larry Johnson -4 #7 - Indiana Pacers (via Chicago Bulls) - Stacey Augmon Terrell Brandon -1 #8 - Los Angeles Lakers- Stanley Roberts Rick Fox +5 #9 - VanMemphis Grizzlies- Chris Gatling Derek Strong +13 #10 - Los Angeles Clippers- Billy Owens Robert Pack +7 #11 - Philadelphia 76ers - Bobby Phills Kenny Anderson -7 #12 - Houston Rockets (via Orlando Magic) - Bison Dele Marc Macon +7 #13 - Toronto Raptors - Rick Fox Greg Anthony +3 #14 - Phoenix Suns - Darrell Armstrong Bobby Phills -3 #15 - Seattle Supersonics (via Denver) - Luc Longley Darrell Armstrong -1 #16 - New Jersey Nets - Greg Anthony Tharon Mayes +7 #17 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Robert Pack Mike Iuzzolino +14 #18 - Portland Trailblazers - Eric Murdock Stanley Roberts -10 #19 - Los Angeles Lakers(via Golden State Warriors) (via New York Knicks) - Mark Macon Eric Murdock -1 #20 - New Orleans Pelicans - David Benoit Elliot Perry +1
Miami Heat are now on the clock!
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 10:21:39 GMT -6
Pick #1
Original Pick: Dikembe Mutombo
Redraft Pick: Stacey Augmon
All-Star Appearances: 3 All-League Second Team: 2 All-League Third Team: 1 All-Defensive First Team: 1
Summary: Many feel that there is 1a. and 1b., but basketball is played at both ends of the court. The Heat originally went into this draft looking to shore up defense, and they would go with defense here again (with an added touch of explosive offense): Stacey Augmon. At the end of the 90-91 season, the Heat had only 1 certainty about them -- Gary Payton. Everything else was a non-guarantee. Adding another dynamic scorer and elite defender to the Heat mix would be great, especially with the inevitable development of Rex Chapman. His front court depth would still be shallow, but Modern Day Stacey Augmon has demonstrated the ability to put the team on his back while shutting down opposing scorers day in and day out. A team of Gary Payton, Stacey Augmon, and Rex Chapman wouldn't be too shabby offensively AND (more importantly) defensively.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 10:21:51 GMT -6
Pick #2
Original Pick: Larry Johnson
Redraft Pick:Steve SmithAwards:Total Player of the Game: 73 Total Player of the Week: 2 Total All-Star Appearances: 1 Total All-League First Team: 1 Total All-League Third Team: 1 Summary: Steve Smith is the gem of this class when it comes to the big picture of offense, defense and handling balls. While he didn't enjoy the out-the-gate success of Stacey Augmon, no one can deny that Smith has one of the highest ceiling in the entire NBA. Smith made his first First Team all league team last year as his rookie deal concluded and is a lock to make about a bazillion more. For the Lakers this pick would solidify their partnership from their front court to their back court with a 25 year old KJ, a 21 Year old Ceballos and a 22 Yr old Steve Smith. In the short term, the Lakers could have rolled with a line-up of:
C: Tisdale PF: Ceballos SF: Smith SG: Blaylock PG: KJ
Firepower.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 10:31:41 GMT -6
Pick #3
Original Pick: Steve Smith
Redraft Pick: Dale DavisAwards:Total Player of the Game: 11 Total All-Defensive Second Team: 1Summary: The Pistons in this spot have two guys to pick from. Dale Davis and Chris Gatling. While they're really neck and neck, I think with a core of Reggie Miller and Michael Adams, the Pistons needs a guy who can be solid for 10 years to come. Davis doesn't light anyone up in the awards section, but all he does is provide efficient offense (career 53% shooting), elite rebounding (career 9.8 rebound per game) and elite post defense. Add that to the fact in 4 years you get him at a steal of a contract and I think the Pistons take this defensive stud and never look back; unless of course Steve Smith were sitting there.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 10:41:16 GMT -6
Pick #4:
Original Pick: (no image) Kenny Anderson
Redraft Pick: Chris Gatling
Awards: All-League Third Team: 1 All-Defensive First Team: 2 Sixth Man of the Year: 1
Summary: The Rockets had the worst record in the 90-91 season but had pretty good talent on the team. Insert a less negligent GM and they could have probably landed a later lotto pick. However, those cruel cruel tanking gods showed the Rockets that being the biggest loser ain't easy, dropping their pick from #1 to #4 in the lotto. To make things worse, the game continued to mind-fuck the Rockets team as a whole by sending Kenny Anderson straight to hell, ratings-wise. However, all of this could have been avoided if 78 had only invested in a crystal ball and saw the light: a large man riding a bear holding the 6th Man of the Year trophy. Chris Gatling would have given the Rockets what they love most: size, defense, and rebounding. Add in the scoring (averaged over 15ppg every season) and the Rockets have a nice down-low compliment to the backcourt of Kenny Smith and Hersey Hawkins (not to mention, a nice player to pair with the slow-developing, eventual defensive BOSS Duane Causwell).
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 10:55:56 GMT -6
Pick #5:
Original Pick: Dale Davis
Redraft Pick: Dikembe Mutombo
Awards: None
Summary: This move is along the same lines of Eazy's original draft pick. In 90-91, the Spurs were 10th in offensive efficiency and 28th in defensive efficiency. Dikembe fits the exact bill of the defensive force down low to be a rim protector. Despite Dikembe using some of his rookie money to invest in the toy company Nerf after his first season, Dikembe has been a very consistent player (averaging a career 10ppg and 10rpg). He's not a world breaker by any means, and there are other players here that could be a better offensive pick. However, with the eventual offensive development of Drazen, Mark Price, and Danny Manning, defense is just what the doctor ordered. And Dikembe delivers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 10:56:56 GMT -6
Pick #6
Original Pick: Terrell Brandon
Redraft Pick:
Larry Johnson
Awards:Total Player of the Game: 49 Total Player of the Week: 2 Total All-Star Appearances: 1 Total All-League Second Team: 1 Total Championships: 11991 PBSL Rookie of the YearSummary: The Sonics ranked 23rd on offense the year before and needed an instant impact on that end. Enter Larry Johnson Offensive aficionado. Although he's seen a decline in player attributes since entering the league, Larry Johnson still does that one thing at an amazing rate. While it's easy to peg LJ as a 1 way wonder, and no one will confuse him for playing defense, LJ has averaged a cool 8.5 Rebounds per game for his career showing he's more than willing as a rebounder. Although TB is still here, the Sonics need a change of their future in which they sold him for a bag of chips and take LJ here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 11:05:19 GMT -6
Pick #7
Original Pick: Stacey Augmon
Redraft Pick:
Terrell Brandon
Awards:
Total Player of the Game: 40 1991 PBSL Rookie Game Participant 1991 PBSL All-Rookie First Team
Summary: In a typical PaulyP move the Pacers get to add for the future with a guy who doesn't need to play right away and has the eventual potential to be a defensive stopper on Defense. The Pacers finished the year at 46-36 and were solid 1-5 and had the luxury here to wait a few years to take Jay Humphries replacement. While Brandon has taken awhile to grow into who he will become, he's been solid. He's averaged 16-7 and has a positive trend when it comes to steals. Once TB matures, the Pacers will be willing to move on from Ewing and can start over with their point guard of the future.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 11:38:03 GMT -6
Pick #8:
Original Pick: Stanley Roberts
Redraft Pick: Rick Fox
Awards: None
Summary: After taking the versatile Steve Smith with the 2nd overall pick, the Lakers have a lot of options here. They were really hoping that Larry Johnson would have fallen to this spot, but they have no qualms taking Rick Fox with this pick. Whether it is an all-defense starting line-up of Kevin Johnson, Mookie Blaylock, Rick Fox, and Cedric Ceballos (with Steve Smith coming off the bench as a super-sub) or an all-offense starting line-up of KJ, Smith, Fox, and Ceballos (Mookie off the bench), the Lakers have their most dangerous weapon: versatility and unpredictability. This pick also doesn't hurt the Lakers' boner for running an outside-focused team (a dream that still has yet to come to fruition... one day).
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 11:52:00 GMT -6
Pick #9:
Original Pick: Chris Gatling
Redraft Pick: Derek Strong
Awards: None
Summary: The Grizzlies really wanted Rick Fox. He would've been a great replacement for Rolando Blackmon and was an excellent fit next to Daughtery, Sarunas and Marc Jackson. But when asked for a comment before making their pick, the Grizzlies GM gave his typical response: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Instead, they decide to address their PF situation with Derek Strong. When looking at their ratings, Derek Strong is a slightly smaller version of Chris Gatling. He took a few years to develop, but then again, Chris Gatling wasn't a starter right away for the Grizzlies either. Knowing how much the Grizzlies GM loves training his big men's conditioning, Strong would've gotten much stronger without a doubt, potentially developing into what Chris Gatling is today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 11:52:29 GMT -6
Pick #10
Original Pick: Billy Owens
Redraft Pick:
Robert 'Robot' Pack
Awards: Total Player of the Game: 22 Summary: The Clippers were rolling with a young team who lead the league in 3 point shooting and FT%. IE They were no where close. In this alternate reality, the select Robot Pack to replace the disappointing B.J. Armstrong. Although Pack is only 1 year younger than Armstrong at this point, he encompasses everything the Clippers like in players, which is Defense, defense, and more defense. Pack also doesn't struggle to move the rock which is something that would benefit this team with it's vast array of scorers in the future. Also, in a cruel twist to the sim world, Pack never establishes his Robot nickname and is called Bert for the rest of his career.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:00:27 GMT -6
Pick #11
Original Pick: Bobby Philis
Redraft Pick:
Kenny Anderson
Awards: Total Player of the Game: 9 Summary: In typical Bojangles fashion, he got drunk the night before his pick and woke up an hour after his pick was due. Due to sim league rules, the top player on the index is auto-drafted and Kenny Anderson is still sitting in the lobby of the draft with a salty look on his face because he was expecting to be picked #4 overall. Don't fret Philly fans, in about 3 years you GM will do the same thing in Free Agency with Tim Hardaway, forgetting to offer him a contract and losing him to the hated division rivals the Boston Celtics, and you'll have your future 3rd string Point Guard you coveted.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 12:13:56 GMT -6
Pick #12:
Original Pick: Bison Dele (RIP)
Redraft Pick: Mark Macon
Awards: Championships: 1
Summary: After taking Chris Gatling with the #4 pick, the Rockets continue to build a contender by adding depth on the wing. Enter: Mark Macon. He may not look like much when he was drafted, but the Rockets are in no rush to build fast with Shaq looming in the next draft. When you look up the definition of "3 & D" on the pelicansreport.com dictionary, you'll find a picture of Jordan Hamilton, Thabo Sefolosha and Wilson Chandler. But in the SLOE dictionary, you will find Mark Macon in 4 years. He will become one of the premiere wing defenders with ELITE steals and SNIPER from beyond the arc (averaging an INSANE 45.6% FG over his career and 41.2% career average from 3). According to advanced statistics for his rookie year, Macon's per36 will be 9.4ppg... not bad value for a #12 overall pick. The Rockets love defense and grabbing Macon now allows them to slide Hersey to the 3 in the future and have ELITE defenders in the post and on the perimeter.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 12:26:24 GMT -6
Pick #13:
Original Pick: Rick Fox
Redraft Pick: Greg Anthony
Awards: Player of the Game: 17
Summary: For the Raptors, the love affair with Greg Anthony had always been there since pre-draft scouting. They loved his ELITE handles and defensive potential on the wing, something the team sorely lacked in Vern Flemming, Vernon Maxwell, and Dee Brown. Depth on the wing (not to mention versatility) is never a bad thing, and Greg Anthony would fit the bill of gritty players in Toronto. In this parallel dimension, the Raptors pretty much run the same course of sweeping the Pistons in-season countless times before getting handled in the playoffs by the Celtics (or the Pistons). However, with the Grizzlies drafting differently, perhaps their GM won't offer a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ offer to him in Restricted Free Agency and the Raptors retain their lock down perimeter defending point guard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:34:09 GMT -6
Pick #14
Original Pick: Darrell Armstrong
Redraft Pick: Bobby Phills
Awards: Total Player of the Game: 11 Summary: The Suns have a Superstar in his prime with Hakeem, and are looking for immediate help here. With their pick they pick the well-rounded Bobby Philis who really doesn't have many holes in his game. With Phills, the Suns get a SG who's a good outside shooter to help open the floor for Hakeem, a good defender and a player that can help create turnovers for easy transition points. Along with all of that Phills brings some versatility being able to play 2 and a bit of the 3 position. Phills will allow the Suns to play Ainge off the bench to give them more depth and with a developing scorer in Chuck Person along with Armen 'The Hammer' Gilliam pulling down offensive rebounds, this team would have been an instant force.
Pick #15
Original Pick:
Luc Longley
Redraft Pick: Darrell Armstrong
Awards: Total Player of the Game: 6 Summary: With the Sonics first pick, they picked the all-world offensive talent in Larry Johnson and passed up on their point guard of the future that they' d give away in Terrell Brandon. Don't worry Sonics fans, this new reality is much kinder in the fact that you get to have you cake and eat it too. Sure this PG of the future will take about 17 years to grow to establish his 2 year prime, but Isiah Thomas was getting older (30) and Armstrong would have been there just in time to take the reigns from Deke. With Armstrong the Sonics continue to establish a culture where they can put the ball in the hole. With the future core of Armstrong, Richmond and LJ this team would have been a Defense and Rebounding Center away from turning heads.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 12:41:14 GMT -6
Pick #16:
Original Pick: Greg Anthony
Redraft Pick: Tharon Mayes
Awards: Player of the Game: 1
Summary: Looking over the Nets, their biggest need is on the wing. We know RPF can't see into the future and see how crappy his eventual Wilkins deal will become. But I know. And I also know that Ron Harper is versatile enough to slide into the 3-spot leaving a whole in at the 2. Tharon Mayes can plug that hole. His offensive game may not be efficient, but with Cliff Robinson, Rod Stickland, and Ron Harper, most of that offense is covered. Mayes's sole purpose here is defense. With Mayes, Strickland, and Harper, the Nets immediately have one of the best perimeter defending teams in the league.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 12:49:55 GMT -6
Pick #17:
Original Pick: Robert Pack
Redraft Pick: Mike Iuzzolino
Awards: Player of the Game: 15
Summary: While initially looking like a reach, Mike Iuzzolino was one of the biggest steals of the draft. After (in "real" SLOE) of travelling between 4 teams in 5 seasons, Mike Iuzzolino could've been a great fit from the get go on the T-wolves. After underachieving for half a season, the T-Wolves blew it up in favor of a rebuild. Drafting Iuzzolino here, I don't think that path changes, and Iuzzolino is on a tanking team that would be able to grab Chris Webber years later. Iuzzolino is a slow developer, but he has one of the most efficient 3-pt shot in the league. His handling and defense both have been on the rise every season as well. Iuzzolino sleeps a little behind Spud Webb before breaking out in a few seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:52:27 GMT -6
Pick #18
Original Pick: Erick Murdock
Redraft Pick:
Stanley Roberts Awards: Although Murdock is the original pick and still on the board, I think the best pick for the Blazers at this point is Stanley Roberts. When looking at their roster to end the year their chart indicates the fortune of a bad pack of starburst than a competent front court. With Roberts, they get a competent but not great big man to man their front court. Although Roberts will have his ups and downs, he's in a great age range to pair with Porter, Ellie and Reggie Williams; a core that brought him to the 5 seed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:57:20 GMT -6
Pick #19:
Original Pick:
Marc Macon
Redraft Pick: Eric Murdock
Awards: Summary: Murdock is really the last bit of talent left on the board and with Stanley Robert being taken right before, the Lakers are forced into taking Murdock here. With taking a competent backup PG, the writing is on the wall for Mookie Blaylock who would have to be moved for a big at this point. Taking Murdock also ensure the Lakers have a plan b in case KJ gets hurt for an extended period and gives them a backup pg on a reasonable contract after his rookie deal.
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 12:59:14 GMT -6
Pick #20:
Original Pick: (no image) David Benoit
Redraft Pick: Elliott Perry
Awards: Total Player of the Game: 1 Total Championships: 1
Summary: At this point, the Pelicans need to grab talent after being traped by the Lakers. Elliott Perry is the Best Player Available, and will eventually turn into a decent role player. But let's be honest, the Pelicans would probably trade him before he reaches most of his potential (probably for Patrick Ewing or something like that).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:59:57 GMT -6
Ok guys, we're done. Comments are highly welcomed..... unless they're negative!
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Post by IamQuailman on Jul 21, 2014 13:00:19 GMT -6
AWARDED 5 POINTS (Balls at max tho... sowwy Bawls)! THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION BRAHS
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Post by J2 on Jul 21, 2014 13:09:10 GMT -6
If I remember right, I think I had the 8th pick and traded it to Balls for Wayman Tisdale. I traded it because I didn't think that Augmon would slip that far, and he didn't. In this alternate universe, I probably would've kept the pick and drafted the Pack Man. Probably. Maybe. I dunno. (Knowing me, I would've squealed with glee and drafted Kenny Anderson, then suffered ) Great job, btw.
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Post by Conroy on Jul 21, 2014 13:25:54 GMT -6
The Smith/Augmon debate continues on. It is funny how the clear #1 and #2 drop to #5 and #6.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 13:28:39 GMT -6
The Smith/Augmon debate continues on. It is funny how the clear #1 and #2 drop to #5 and #6. Knowing I won a ring w LJ and may not have otherwise still makes me not regret the LJ pick at all. 8 year all star w 0 rings or 2 year all star with 1 ring is a solid debate.
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