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Post by DarthVegito on Jun 23, 2014 13:32:06 GMT -6
Dallas sends
Bryon Russell
Horace Grant
6 points
Toronto sends
Magic Johnson
Charles Barkley
Mavs accept. Quick and painless.
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 23, 2014 13:34:13 GMT -6
Accept.
Painless like a hot dog down a hallway.
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Post by coltsguy510 on Jun 23, 2014 13:34:31 GMT -6
Daaammmmnnnn
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 23, 2014 13:39:13 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on)
Cap is $20,518,931
Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410
This means Mavs are over the cap.
Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade.
Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary.
Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary.
By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on.
The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal.
Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 13:40:48 GMT -6
christ, does no one check the fucking rules  ? |
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Post by IamQuailman on Jun 23, 2014 13:40:56 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. Sounds like Andre Turner is about to get some use! haha |
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 23, 2014 13:41:17 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. It works in trade checker. But it will be adjusted if need be. I trust the Commish knows how to do these things. |
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 23, 2014 13:41:27 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. Do this for the Magic/Pistons trade please |
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 23, 2014 13:42:32 GMT -6
christ, does no one check the fucking rules ? Again, worked in trade checker, so we will see. |
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Post by Soundwave on Jun 23, 2014 13:43:18 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. Do this for the Magic/Pistons trade please Different scenario. That trade puts ORL over the cap. That can't happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 13:43:54 GMT -6
christ, does no one check the fucking rules ? Again, worked in trade checker, so we will see. I'm just messing man. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 13:45:06 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. It's ok Wig, apparently being unAmerican is smiled upon in this establishment. |
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Post by LoCo89 on Jun 23, 2014 13:47:08 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. It's ok Wig, apparently being unAmerican is smiled upon in this establishment.  |
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 23, 2014 13:48:21 GMT -6
Ahem. (Trade Nazi hat on) Cap is $20,518,931 Mavs salary prior to trade is $22,235,410 This means Mavs are over the cap. Per the rules page: Teams over the cap can only take on an 10% additional salary in a trade. Mavs are sending out $6,177,542 in salary. Mavs are receiving $7,087,500 in salary. By my math that is 14.7% additional salary the Mavs are taking on. The Mavs need send out at least $6,443,182 in salary (i.e., an additional $265,640) before this trade can be legal. Basically, y'all need to have Chad throw another player in there. It's ok Wig, apparently being unAmerican is smiled upon in this establishment. |
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 23, 2014 14:04:13 GMT -6
christ, does no one check the fucking rules ? Again, worked in trade checker, so we will see. Looked at the trade checker code. It is programmed to allow trades that are within 15%. So a trade of 14.7% it will okay, even though our rules limit to 10%. Hence the disclaimer at the bottom the trade checker will not always work. |
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Post by IamQuailman on Jun 23, 2014 14:05:16 GMT -6
oh snap. Can we steal that code and create our own checker to do 10%?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 14:28:34 GMT -6
oh snap. Can we steal that code and create our own checker to do 10%? You could just make a spreadsheet |
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 23, 2014 14:39:59 GMT -6
oh snap. Can we steal that code and create our own checker to do 10%? The original code was a little sloppy and failed in multiple edge cases anyway (for some reason, it allowed teams to use 115% of their cap space to match trades - this is just wrong, if I have 100 cap space, I can't absorb 115 in salary beyond the salary match... also the order that you put in salaries could lead to it working one way but not another and salary increase of up to 17.6% - go to their page and try entering 100 for the first team and 85 for the other... it says it works... but if you then enter 85 for the first team and 100 for the second, it says no - these should be identical cases but they're not treated that way because of poor coding). Anyway, the code at the link I gave above does the following: 1. Sums up salaries entered as involved in the trade for each team. 2. Checks to see which total salary is the lower amount (needs to know what value to base 110% of salary on for matching). 3. If the higher salary total is within 10% of the lower salary total, marks the trade as "Works" (i.e., who cares about cap). 4. If the higher salary total is NOT within 10% of the lower salary total, checks to see if both teams have sufficient cap space to absorb contracts. If both teams have enough cap space to absorb the contracts they are receiving, marks the trade as "Works." 5. Otherwise (i.e., if salaries are not within 10% and at least one team does not have sufficient cap space to absorb the contracts it is receiving) returns "Nope." Disclaimer: I may have messed something up, but I tried all the edge cases I could think of and it held up to each one. |
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 23, 2014 14:55:31 GMT -6
oh snap. Can we steal that code and create our own checker to do 10%? The original code was a little sloppy and failed in multiple edge cases anyway (for some reason, it allowed teams to use 115% of their cap space to match trades - this is just wrong, if I have 100 cap space, I can't absorb 115 in salary beyond the salary match... also the order that you put in salaries could lead to it working one way but not another and salary increase of up to 17.6% - go to their page and try entering 100 for the first team and 85 for the other... it says it works... but if you then enter 85 for the first team and 100 for the second, it says no - these should be identical cases but they're not treated that way because of poor coding). Anyway, the code at the link I gave above does the following: 1. Sums up salaries entered as involved in the trade for each team. 2. Checks to see which total salary is the lower amount (needs to know what value to base 110% of salary on for matching). 3. If the higher salary total is within 10% of the lower salary total, marks the trade as "Works" (i.e., who cares about cap). 4. If the higher salary total is NOT within 10% of the lower salary total, checks to see if both teams have sufficient cap space to absorb contracts. If both teams have enough cap space to absorb the contracts they are receiving, marks the trade as "Works." 5. Otherwise (i.e., if salaries are not within 10% and at least one team does not have sufficient cap space to absorb the contracts it is receiving) returns "Nope." Disclaimer: I may have messed something up, but I tried all the edge cases I could think of and it held up to each one. We need this stickied when the checker is finalized. Great work this far, Wig. You are the man!! |
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 23, 2014 15:02:21 GMT -6
Maybe.The original code was a little sloppy and failed in multiple edge cases anyway (for some reason, it allowed teams to use 115% of their cap space to match trades - this is just wrong, if I have 100 cap space, I can't absorb 115 in salary beyond the salary match... also the order that you put in salaries could lead to it working one way but not another and salary increase of up to 17.6% - go to their page and try entering 100 for the first team and 85 for the other... it says it works... but if you then enter 85 for the first team and 100 for the second, it says no - these should be identical cases but they're not treated that way because of poor coding). Anyway, the code at the link I gave above does the following: 1. Sums up salaries entered as involved in the trade for each team. 2. Checks to see which total salary is the lower amount (needs to know what value to base 110% of salary on for matching). 3. If the higher salary total is within 10% of the lower salary total, marks the trade as "Works" (i.e., who cares about cap). 4. If the higher salary total is NOT within 10% of the lower salary total, checks to see if both teams have sufficient cap space to absorb contracts. If both teams have enough cap space to absorb the contracts they are receiving, marks the trade as "Works." 5. Otherwise (i.e., if salaries are not within 10% and at least one team does not have sufficient cap space to absorb the contracts it is receiving) returns "Nope." Disclaimer: I may have messed something up, but I tried all the edge cases I could think of and it held up to each one. We need this stickied when the checker is finalized. Great work this far, Wig. You are the man!! It is finalized. Click the word Maybe in my post. |
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 23, 2014 15:19:48 GMT -6
We need this stickied when the checker is finalized. Great work this far, Wig. You are the man!! It is finalized. Click the word Maybe in my post. It isn't working for me. Maybe it's my misunderstanding of how the damn thing works since the first PR season. Team 1 or 2 Salaries are the ones they are sending or the ones they are taking on. Also, team cap...is that free cap space? So take the magic for instance. 1995-96 cap minus their total salaries listed on their team page before the trade equals this number correct? |
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Post by WigNosy on Jun 23, 2014 15:37:05 GMT -6
Team 1 and 2 salaries are the current season's salaries of players being traded. This is the team they are being traded FROM.
Team 1 and 2 cap is the amount of cap space each team has this season.
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 23, 2014 15:40:09 GMT -6
Team 1 and 2 salaries are the current season's salaries of players being traded. This is the team they are being traded FROM. Team 1 and 2 cap is the amount of cap space each team has this season. Maybe my problem is not using Firefox like it suggests. I checked my trade which clearly keeps them under the cap now and it said Nope either way I put the 11.5M of cap space the Magic have. I put a 0 for the other since I am over. |
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Post by IamQuailman on Jun 23, 2014 15:40:15 GMT -6
Team 1 and 2 salaries are the current season's salaries of players being traded. This is the team they are being traded FROM. Team 1 and 2 cap is the amount of cap space each team has this season. If a negative, use 0? |
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Post by TrayWithAnA on Jun 23, 2014 15:41:19 GMT -6
Team 1 and 2 salaries are the current season's salaries of players being traded. This is the team they are being traded FROM. Team 1 and 2 cap is the amount of cap space each team has this season. If a negative, use 0? That's what I did |
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