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Post by IamQuailman on May 17, 2014 23:14:17 GMT -6
The past couple off-seasons, there have been some deals that have been great... and then there have been some deals that you gotta hate. In this thread, I'll be discussing the Top 10 Worst and the Top 10 Best contracts around the league. Of course there will be room for discussion, as many of these ratings are based on my opinion. Please feel free to discuss below!
TOP 10 WORST DEALS
#10 Hakeem Olajuwon - Last Year's PER: 29.1 - This Year's PER: 19.8
Contract Situation: $6,766,301 - $7,519,594 - $8,254,887 - $8,999,180 - $9,743,473)
Hakeem is one of the best centers this game has seen in recent history; so one would wonder why a guy who averaged nearly 30 PPG and 11 RPG for the past 4 seasons makes this list. Surely he deserves to be paid a large contract for his services. Well, Hakeem isn't a spring chicken. He'll be 32 years old in January, and is on the 1st year of a 5-year deal that totals to just over $41 million. His scoring has gone down each year, with the Dream averaging the lowest PPG in his 11-year career. His PER has plummeted 10 points. While his contract is manageable now and he's still averaging 20-11 this year, in a couple seasons, he'll be making $8+ million a year and will be eating up almost 30-40% of his team's cap. Hopefully he'll still be able to pull some double doubles, but only time will tell. Heat better hope for an early retirement!
#9 Karl Malone - Last Year's PER: 34.5 - This Year's PER: 19.8
Contract Situation: $5,799,686 - $6,524,647 - $7,249,608 - $7,974,568 - $8,699,529
Karl Malone has been one of the most dominant players in the history of #SLOE, especially when it comes to the playoffs. Year in and year out, Malone put the team on his back and carried the Kings on historic win streaks and playoff runs. However, it appears that the effort Malone had put in 24/7 365 has started to take its toll on him. Karl's still playing at a high level; a stat line of 23.5PPG and 9 RPG (and a 19.8 PER) is nothing to scoff at. However, one has to wonder if this is just a one-year drop off or if this is a sign of things to come. The Kings (or whoever may own him over the next few years) will have a great player on their team, but his regression (if it continues at the current rate) could make the last couple years of this deal a financial burden.
#8 Ken Norman - Last Year's PER: 16.7 - This Year's PER: 12.5
Contract Situation: $3,360,500 - $3,666,000 - $3,971,500
In an off-season gone horribly wrong, the Phoenix Suns hoped to use their abundance of cap space to surround Hakeem Olajuwon with talent and compete for the top of the Pacific Conference. Instead, they struck out in the first wave of free agent signings, having to overpay in order to resign the remaining talent. One of these contracts was for tweener forward Ken Norman. Brought in to play power forward, Ken Norman had spent the majority of his career as Central Division journeyman backup small forward, playing spot minutes at the 4. He was never known for his defense, and playing along side other turnstile starters (minus the few games he actually managed to play alongside Hakeem) the Suns struggled on the defensive side of the ball. Fast foward a year later, Ken is doing what he always has done (score and grab defensive boards), but he's doing this on a star-less team. Someone's going to put up points. But for an average of $3.5 million a year for 4 years, you should at least be playing some defense.
#7 Scottie Pippen - Last Year's PER: 18.0 - This Year's PER: 14.9
Contract Situation: $5,799,686 - $6,524,647 - $7,249,608 - $7,974,568 - $8,699,529
Scottie Pippen is one of the best defensive and versatile players in this league. The Lakers loved this guy, shipping out some young and talented players in order to acquire this premier talent for their championship push. Despite that love, Pippen became the 1994 recipient of the Lakers "Super-Max and Ship Out" Award. The team that received Pippen (and essentially agreed to the deal being offered to Scottie) was the Dallas Mavericks, who had just brought in another big name. Pippen brings his versatility to this team, but one could beg to question why the Mavericks would pay this much money to a guy who essentially plays the same role as the up and coming stud they had drafted the last season (Byron Russell). They went all in for the season (financially and talent-wise), but we'll discuss this more a little later on.
#6 Scott Skiles - Last Year's PER: 13.5 - This Year's PER: 11.8
Contract Situation: $4,033,688 - $4,481,875 - $4,930,062
Scott Skiles is another one of the Phoenix Suns' failed attempts to surround the Dream with talent. Skiles, a long time resident in Phoenix, opted to test the free agency in 1993 rather than working out a deal mid-season. Phoenix got nervous and decided to show Scott the money. Scott took that money and ran with it... but only on offensive. Skiles is not and was never much of a defensive guy. He was a guy primarily known for distributing the ball to a certain center. But once that big man was shipped out to Miami last year, Skiles's assist totals went down -- his averages dropping 2 APG from last year's average -- and his turnover totals went up. He was never much of an efficient shooter, and now that he's not much of an efficient facilitator, sources close to the Suns Front Office say they are beginning to regret the contract. That could be the understatement of the year.
#5 Duane Causwell - Last Year's PER: 14.9 - This Year's PER: 13.6
Contract Situation: $4,833,072 - $5,316,379 - $5,799,686 - $6,282,994
The youth resurgence in the nation's capital is in full swing. Speaking of nation's capital, the Wizards made a capital investment in Duane Causwell. Going into the offseason, many around the league felt that Duane would be a highly valued big. Many thought he would make a pretty penny, but very few thought he would make 483,307,200 pennies. In fact, many GMs around the league best felt he deserved a contract around the figure of $3-3.5 million a year. It's hard to measure his defensive impact in tangible numbers outside of the 3.2 BPG figure, but it's also hard to justify giving an average of $5.56 million per year over 4 years to a guy averaging 8PPG and 7.3MPG.
#4 Benoit Benjamin - Last Year's PER: 15.6 - This Year's PER: 11.9
Contract Situation: $6,017,733 - $6,686,370 - $7,355,007 - $8,023,644
Coming off of the high of a NBA Championship, the Los Angeles Lakers had a decision to make regarding their defensive stud of a center; however, instead of keeping him, Benoit Benjamin became the 1993 recipient of the Lakers annual "Super-Max and Ship Out" award. Benjamin travelled to Seattle in hopes of becoming their defensive anchor next to promising young forward, Vin Baker. Instead, he encountered an injury-riddled and frustrating 10-and-8 season. Some in the Seattle front office felt that Benoit became lazy and used his injury as a cover for not wanting to play in Seattle. Already feeling the impact of his deal, Seattle's FO tried finding a suitor for a Benjamin trade. After failed attempts at moving Benjamin, Seattle saw his contract as dead weight and shipped out Terrell Brandon instead, knowing they wouldn't be able to sign him in the upcoming offseason. However, in a cruel twist of fate, days after the Brandon trade, Seattle found a willing suitor in Detroit, who was looking to shake it up after the second consecutive year of getting bounced by the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Championship. Stat-wise, Benjamin is rebounding at a much better rate in Detroit than he did in Seattle (from 15.1 to 18.8). Is 10 PPG and 10RPG in 34 minutes worth $6 million? Detroit better hope for continued improvement as the season progresses (and in the next few years as well)
#3 Patrick Ewing - Last Year's PER: 25.0 - This Year's PER: 14.0
Contract Situation: $5,799,686 - $6,524,647 - $7,249,608 - $7,974,568 - $8,699,529
As you read before regarding Pippen, the Mavericks went all in on this season bringing in a couple hefty contracts to fill some “holes” on his team. However, the “hole” at center was one that needed to not be filled, as they already had a bonafide starter in Seikaly on a shorter/more reasonable deal. Rony’s deal is 1 year shorter and in that final year allows for $1.3 million in additional cap space. Instead, they agreed to a sign and trade with the Pacers for a 32-year old Patrick Ewing, bundled with a fresh new 5 year, $36 million deal. In doing so, he shipped out young backup Gheorge Muresan (rookie contract), Joe Dumars (expiring), and an unprotected Hornets 96 first. In one off-season, his team’s average age jumped 2.5 years (from 26.25 to 28.77). But I digress. Ewing, through 6 games, Ewing is averaging a career low 15.3PPG and 7.9RPG in 33 minutes (PER 14.0). Will we ever know how Rony Seikaly would’ve performed in this situation? No. But he's averaging 11PPG and 9.8RPG in 27 minutes (PER 14.3)... not to mention that the Mavs would have been able to save some serious cash for the years when they have to pay both Byron Russell and the Greatness in 1997.
#2 Detlef Schrempf - Last Year's PER: 19.3 - This Year's PER: 12.4
Contract Situation: $5,884,006 - $6,418,915 - $6,953,825
The Rockets handed out some pretty hefty contracts over the past couple of off-seasons, but Detlef’s takes the cake. So far this season (through 13 games), he’s shooting a career high from beyond the arc (47.8%), but his rebounding rate (which has hovered around 13.6 for the duration of his #SLOE career) has dipped to a measly 9.5 on the season. For a guy who was signed to shoot and rebound, he’s starting to disappoint in the latter… and with him being 31, things more than likely won’t be getting better in the future either. Fortunately for the Rockets, after this season, he'll only have two years left. Unfortunately for the Rockets, Shaq comes off his rookie deal the season before Detlef's last year on his contract. Good luck in that free agency!
#1 Dominique Wilkins - Last Year's PER: 18.3 - This Year's PER: 10.3
Contract Situation: $4,860,000 - $5,220,000 - $5,580,000 - $5,940,000
By the end of this season, Dominique Wilkins will be 35 and will have made $4,860,000. Those two figures are the only two numbers that will continue to increase annually. Everything else related the once-upon-a-time All-Star has been in a consistent skid since his injury-riddled season with the Milwaukee Bucks (which led to a subsequent trade). Things won’t be looking any better for the Cavs either, as D-Wilk alone will soak up a quarter of his team’s cap for the next few years. Cleveland fans better pray for an early retirement, or they could be in for a long ride.
Honorable Mentions:
Nate McMillan - Last Year's PER: 15.5 - This Year's PER: 9.8
Contract Situation: $3,410,000 - $3,720,000 - $4,030,000
Derek Harper - Last Year's PER: 17.8 (28 mpg) - This Year's PER: 18.5 (in 9.8 mpg)
Contract Situation: $4,000,000 - $4,200,000
Ron Harper - Last Year's PER: 21.3 - This Year's PER: 15.1
Contract Situation: $6,017,733 - $6,686,370 - $7,355,007 - $8,023,644
Michael Adams - Last Year's PER: 16.9 - This Year's PER: 12.5
Contract Situation: $4,125,000 - $4,500,000 - $4,875,000
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Think your guy shouldn't be on here? Think someone is too high or too low in the rankings? Did I miss someone? Let me know what you think!
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Post by J2 on May 17, 2014 23:27:31 GMT -6
Nice article, Quail. Yeah, I knew I was probably overpaying for Duane, but 26-year-old bigs with strong defensive ability don't just pop up every FA period. If I didn't take that chance, I'm 100% sure that someone else would've. Not to mention that I'm in a division with Zo, Hakeem, Elden, and Vlade. If I didn't get a quality Center in FA, you'd be drafting one at my expense in '95. Shoot, you still might be.
I can only hope that the effort I plan to put into Duane (and Jennings) pays off.
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Post by IamQuailman on May 17, 2014 23:53:12 GMT -6
Nice article, Quail. Yeah, I knew I was probably overpaying for Duane, but 26-year-old bigs with strong defensive ability don't just pop up every FA period. If I didn't take that chance, I'm 100% sure that someone else would've. Not to mention that I'm in a division with Zo, Hakeem, Elden, and Vlade. If I didn't get a quality Center in FA, you'd be drafting one at my expense in '95. Shoot, you still might be. I can only hope that the effort I plan to put into Duane (and Jennings) pays off. I agree with you man; and all of this is subjective. As long as you have a rhyme or reason to what you do, that's all that matters. Duane is a great defensive/rebounding center, no doubt about that. He's definitely good at what he does.. just doesn't fill the stat sheet. |
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Post by Soundwave on May 18, 2014 6:58:07 GMT -6
Best?
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Post by IamQuailman on May 18, 2014 7:10:58 GMT -6
Need to do the write-ups still, but I have the rankings done. Will probably get them up later this afternoon. |
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Post by 78 on May 18, 2014 7:41:05 GMT -6
Good article. In fairness to Detlef Schrempf, his rebounding has fallen because he's strictly playing SF and has two strong rebounders in the front court with Shaq and Grant Long. His contract isn't good but he's been a good scorer at SF so far.
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Post by NOLa. on May 18, 2014 9:54:06 GMT -6
I agree with the rankings but don't agree with the measurement on them using PER because if so Kemp's PER has dropped 13 points since last season.
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Post by IamQuailman on May 18, 2014 9:55:35 GMT -6
I agree with the rankings but don't agree with the measurement on them using PER because if so Kemp's PER has dropped 13 points since last season. PER isn't the sole measurement used, but it was one of the things I referenced most. Age, production drop, minutes all played a factor as well. I didn't have a formula... just eye test for me. |
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Post by bowtothebill23 on May 18, 2014 10:37:48 GMT -6
I agree with the rankings but don't agree with the measurement on them using PER because if so Kemp's PER has dropped 13 points since last season. The PER they use is weird. They always start low and rise as the season progresses. |
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Post by IamQuailman on May 18, 2014 10:54:55 GMT -6
I agree with the rankings but don't agree with the measurement on them using PER because if so Kemp's PER has dropped 13 points since last season. The PER they use is weird. They always start low and rise as the season progresses. Not to mention, he has Glen "Chucker" Rice taking away his shots (attempting 4.5 less FGs/gm) |
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Post by bowtothebill23 on May 18, 2014 11:36:45 GMT -6
The PER they use is weird. They always start low and rise as the season progresses. Not to mention, he has Glen "Chucker" Rice taking away his shots (attempting 4.5 less FGs/gm) I think when a guy has a 60% true shooting %, he can lose the "chucker" label |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 11:54:38 GMT -6
Not to mention, he has Glen "Chucker" Rice taking away his shots (attempting 4.5 less FGs/gm) I think when a guy has a 60% true shooting %, he can lose the "chucker" label Yeah, i guess 14 games enough to change a career's worth of chucking. |
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Post by Inner_GI on May 18, 2014 12:08:48 GMT -6
I think when a guy has a 60% true shooting %, he can lose the "chucker" label Yeah, i guess 14 games enough to change a career's worth of chucking. He's a chucker. It's why I wouldn't give him the max. He takes way to many shots even when he isn't a scoring option and coming off the bench. So frustrating. |
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Post by J2 on May 18, 2014 12:50:48 GMT -6
Speaking of 'Nique and the Cavs, where's Jhow been?
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Post by NOLa. on May 18, 2014 14:04:52 GMT -6
No respect, Ben.
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Post by bowtothebill23 on May 18, 2014 16:08:17 GMT -6
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Post by IamQuailman on May 18, 2014 17:02:48 GMT -6
We've talked Top 10 Worst... but what about the opposite? What deals out there are the steals of the league? To be fair, I excluded ALL rookie deals from this analysis (as those are naturally good deals)... Find out below!
TOP 10 BEST CONTRACTS:
#10 Terry Porter
Contract Situation: $444,643
It's hard to ignore this deal. It almost looks like a joke. But vet minimum for a guy like Terry Porter is a steal. There's nothing else really to say. He could be averaging 5PPG and 2APG and this would STILL be a good deal.
#9 Roy Tarpley
Contract Situation: $2,310,000 - $2,520,000 - $2,730,000
The "other guy" in New York. He hides in the shadow of David Robinson, but in seasons where David Robinson was out with an injury, it was Roy Tarpley carried the load in the front court. He's one of the team's unheralded leaders on defense and rebounding. This season he's playing 10 minutes less per game and averaging a #SLOE low of 11.7 PPG, but when David Robinson is healthy and dominating, you don't need someone dominating next to him. You need someone that grabs the boards that D-Rob doesn't gobble up. You need someone that will hit his open looks when teams double D-Rob. You need someone to help man the most nightmarish defensive front court in the league. And Roy has done that year after year. Considering the inflation of contracts for big men, this contract is not that heavy hitting on his team's cap. We'll revisit the Knicks later on.
#8 Wayman Tisdale
Contract Situation: $863,008 - $934,925 - $1,006,842
The reigning 6th Man of the Year is getting a little love today. Earlier in this article, I dogged the Wizards for their contract of Duane Causwell. However, this is one contract that they need to be applauded for. Wayman has been one of the most underrated bigs in this league and has primarily flown under the radar. After winning the 6th Man of the Year award last year, he's finally getting his due. Fortunately he's getting his due with 2 more years remaining on his VERY team friendly contract after this season. This season, he is seeing decreased minutes as the Wizards are focusing more on defense down low, but in 24 minutes, he's been the spark plug off the bench, scoring 13 PPG and rebounding 4.5 boards a game. He is starting to get to the age where his production may begin to dip (technically it already has as his PPS has fallen from 1.16 to 1.06), but with a contract that takes up only 5% of the cap, I'll take that production any day.
#7 Gary Payton
Contract Situation: $4,833,072 - $5,364,710 - $5,896,348 - $6,427,986 - $6,959,624
It took a while, but ladies and gentlemen, Gary Payton is finally. The Miami Heat took a leap of faith with Payton -- after a very average first 4 years with the team -- signing Payton to a 5yr, $30 million deal. And Payton took their faith and turned it around into one of the best off-season progressions of his young career. He's having his best offensive season of the year, career highs in almost every offensive stat category, specifically with his True Shooting % jumping from 49% last season to 53.9% this season. Now, as for his deal, it's still a quite a bit of money. However, with how he would perform after being paid teetering in the balance, his progression in training camp turned this from possible bad contract to Top 7 great contracts. It'll be interesting to see how the Heat handle their cap situation going forward, but rest assured Gary Payton's salary will be 100% earned day in and day out.
#6 Mookie Blaylock
Contract Situation: $2,145,000 - $2,340,000 - $2,535,000
Coming out of the creation draft, Mookie Blaylock was highly coveted (and drafted) by the Los Angeles Lakers solely for his handles and defensive potential alone. Since that draft, Mookie has been on 4 teams before finding his home with his 5th, the Charlotte Hornets. Despite his high potential in the most important areas for a point guard, Mookie was sent to teams who were never in the right situation for him to flourish. From the Lakers, he went to the desperate Sonics in the 1991 offseason for Mitch Richmond. However, once eligible to be traded, he was shipped out to the Magic, who were a team in search of help for Glen Rice. Apparently Mookie wasn't the help the Magic thought, as he was shipped out then to the Mavericks in a deal for Horace Grant and Derek Harper. Despite these tumultuous 3 seasons of non-stop relocation, Mookie continued to grow into his body and into the player many thought he could become. And it it seemed that Mookie found a team where he fit, as he and the Mavericks reached an extension mid-season. But then the fluid nature of NBA employment reared its head once again, as the Mavericks -- who no longer needed Mookie after drafting Penny Hardaway -- turned him into some younger pieces and assets by shipping him out to Charlotte. On his 5th team in 4 seasons, Mookie finally felt at home and was promised he would be the focal point of this Hornets with budding star big man, Tom Gugliotta. Entering into his fifth season, Mookie took this commitment to heart and improved himself even more, rivaling Gary Payton as one of the best defensive point guards in the game. In fact, many call Mookie the "Poor Man's Gary Payton" (scoring 15PPG, dishing out 8 APG, and averaging 2 SPG). However, in the NBA, a team with Mookie's type of deal is quite rich in fortune, as they can look to add talent to surround Mookie with the money he saves them... just as the Hornets did this past off-season with Chris Mullin. It will be interesting to not only watch Mookie continue to improve as a player but to also watch how the Hornets Front Office utilizes the space Mookie's deal saves them.
#5 Rik Smits
Contract Situation: $2,107,034 - $2,341,149 - $2,575,264
When Rik Smits signed his extension with the Magic back in 1992, he felt he was being signed to be a part of that magical championship run (pun intended). Instead, not even 2 weeks later, he was surprisingly shipped out to the defending champion Atlanta Hawks. The Hawks, since acquiring Rik Smits, have brought out some of his best basketball. Since joining the Hawks, Rik Smits has not averaged less than 19 points and 7.5 rebounds in a season. While his shooting efficiency is down from last season (True Shooting 54.9% down from 57.6%), his rebounding rate has improved to 14. With some contracts coming off the books this coming offseason, Rik's cap space conducive contract will help the Hawks to lure in some more talent, possibly helping them to return to Central Division dominance once again.
#4 Terry Mills
Contract Situation: $1,150,000 - $1,150,000 - $1,150,000
In 1992, the Clippers signed what could be one of the biggest steals in #SLOE history when they offered and signed Terry Mills to his 5-year, $5.75 million deal. Terry came into the league and improved year by year on both sides of the ball. Since signing this deal, he's become more of a focal point in the Clipper offense. His scoring has increased by 3 PPG each season, while maintaining an average rebounding rate of 14.3 over since the 1992-93 season. This season he has a True Shooting % of 62.6% (shooting 51% from beyond the arch on 3 attempts a game) and his Points Per Shot has jumped from last season's 1.11 to 1.42. Terry Mills might be one of the most well-rounded big men in the league; GMs around the league should hope and pray that they have the same fortune to sign a guy of Mills caliber to a deal like his.
#3 Michael Jordan
Contract Situation: $5,500,000 - $5,940,000 - $6,380,000 - $6,820,000
After witnessing fellow 1984 draftee Hakeem Olajuwon command a Mega-Max, the deal Michael Jordan settled for in Utah must be evaluated in a whole new light. Mike remains loyal to a fault to the Jazz, taking a smaller deal, in hopes that his Front Office will reward him by surrounding him with a talented squad. While he waits for the latter, he's putting up 25-6.5-5 this season through 14 games. He's shooting a little less efficiently this season, primarily due to his team playing from behind and Mike having to shoot an average of 6.5 3PA a game. With some cap relief this coming off-season, Jordan can only hope that his organization can finally provide him some more talent to work with. Utah at least owes the former MVP that after he took such a team-friendly deal.
#2 Shawn Kemp
Contract Situation: $4,833,072 - $5,437,206 - $6,041,340 - $6,645,474 - $7,249,608
Shawn Kemp was one of the hottest commodities in the FA this past off-season. I believe 11 teams had placed bids on Shawn, but there was a snowball's chance in hell that Mr. TotheBill would let the reigning MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Having just turned 25 years old on the last day of the last sim, we are witnessing a player who is finally hitting his prime and will be a force for years to come. While the Top 10 worst contracts included many guys who got "Super-Maxes", this is one Super-Max well-deserved. His scoring is down a little this season, primarily due to the addition of the (newly-efficient) chucker Glen Rice, but that will only make Shawn better, forcing opponents to leave double and triple teams to guard Dennis Scott and Rice. Watch out, #SLOE. We could be looking at another All-League First Team year for this great player on a great deal.
#1 David Robinson
Contract Situation: $4,457,580 - $5,014,778 - $5,571,975 - $6,129,172
David Robinson has been one of the most dominant forces in #SLOE. He's been the MVP, the DPOY, 2-Time Block Leader, 4-Time All-Star, 2-Time All-League First Team, 2-Time All-League Second Team, 1-Time All-Defense First Team, and 1-Time All-Defense Second Team. He just turned 29 in this past off-season, and he's making less than #2 ranked Shawn Kemp. Through 15 games, D-Rob is averaging 31 points, 11.5 rebounds, and 3.3 blocks... while making $350,000 less than Dominique Wilkins and $400,000 less than #2-ranked Shawn Kemp this season. Talk about a sweetheart deal. He provides the Knicks an opportunity to keep building around him as the offensive and defensive anchor of his team.
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#10 Magic Johnson
Contract Situation: $3,000,000 - $3,375,000
Charles Barkley
Contract Situation: $3,300,000 - $3,712,500 - $4,125,000 - $4,537,500
Jeff Hornacek
Contract Situation: $3,200,000 - $3,296,000 - $3,392,000
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Post by J2 on May 18, 2014 17:25:56 GMT -6
I'd put Mills higher than Jordan, honestly. You just don't get a C/PF in his prime for that price tag. I'd also put Kemp over D-Rob because of the age difference. Robinson's about to hit that 30-year-old decline, and it remains to be seen how he'll handle it (hopefully not with more injuries). Kemp's 25 and just entered Purple/Purple land. Other than that, good stuff man!  |
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Post by IamQuailman on May 18, 2014 17:31:04 GMT -6
I'd put Mills higher than Jordan, honestly. You just don't get that kind of a player, especially a C/PF in his prime, for that price tag. Good stuff man! Yeah, Jordan was tough as I had him a lot lower at first but then looked at contract (esp after looking at hakeem's) and thought that was a massive discount for Jordan |
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Post by IamQuailman on May 19, 2014 13:33:33 GMT -6
Bump ... Not sure if peeps know I posted Top 10 Bests
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Post by Nick Malone 77 on May 19, 2014 15:01:01 GMT -6
Mookie's value and contract dollars do make him of of the best deals in the entire game. Thanks Darth!
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Post by logpmess on May 19, 2014 15:11:16 GMT -6
I'd put Mills higher than Jordan, honestly. You just don't get that kind of a player, especially a C/PF in his prime, for that price tag. Good stuff man! Yeah, Jordan was tough as I had him a lot lower at first but then looked at contract (esp after looking at hakeem's) and thought that was a massive discount for Jordan Basing contracts off of other people is trouble. Especially comparing SG to C. A top center is harder to come by. In the end, championships determine contract value. ::crosses fingers:: hope to prove you wrong. |
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Post by bowtothebill23 on May 19, 2014 16:01:40 GMT -6
Doug wants more comments, so here's why shawn Kemp should be #1. If you're looking at contracts and players as how valuable they are to each other, it's pretty much the same thing as looking at trade value (player's production vs dollars). If we had a start from scratch draft with every player's current contract, I still believe Kemp would be picked over David Robinson by most people. That to me would qualify Kemp as a bigger value contract than DROB.
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Post by not1not2not3 on May 20, 2014 13:52:51 GMT -6
Can't say I disagree with the top ten  Knicks4life.  |
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Post by Soundwave on May 20, 2014 14:50:53 GMT -6
Can't say I disagree with the top ten Knicks4life. Hey, he speaks! |
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